CSGV: Because we say so.

We already know that the Coalition to Stop Gun Rights Violence has a natural disdain for The Bill of Rights. Now please add to that either absolute ignorance or absolute lies about Stand Your Ground. The following is an exchange between whatever intern CSGV had working last night and Sebastian from Shall Not Be Questioned:

CSGV state without any reservation that Duty to Retreat has been the law of the land and that Stand Your Ground is a brand new evil legal concoction created by the NRA. This flies off the face of long standing legal evidence and the case of Beard v. United States  from 1895 (yes, that was 107 117 years ago.)

The defendant was where he had the right to be, when the deceased advanced upon him in a threatening manner and with a deadly weapon, and if the accused did not provoke the assault, and had at the time reasonable grounds to believe, and in good faith believed, that the deceased intended to take his life, or do him great bodily harm, he was not obliged to retreat nor to consider whether he could safely retreat, but was entitled to stand his ground and meet any attack made upon him with a deadly weapon in such way and with such force as, under all the circumstances, he at the moment, honestly believed, and had reasonable grounds to believe, were necessary to save his own life or to protect himself from great bodily injury.

So Stand Your Ground has been in the legal books for over a century and it was not a single solitary case but reinforced by Brown v. United States in 1921:

if a man reasonably believes that he is in immediate danger of death or grievous bodily harm from his assailant he may stand his ground and that if he kills him he has not succeeded the bounds of lawful self defence. That has been the decision of this Court.

So, we have standing legal precedent and recognition of Stand Your Ground for well over a century, yet CSGV has no qualms in lying (Yes, lying. I cannot believe that they are that stupid) to forward their cause. And they have to do so because exposing the truth would nullify what they are trying to do.

9 Replies to “CSGV: Because we say so.”

  1. >Anti-Gun Campaigns/Groups
    >Truth

    You sir are a better comedian than Gonzalo Cordova.

    Straight face, well, how can you look at this with a straight face?




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  2. You already know what I think about the CSGV sheep. . .

    They should all pack up and move to Chicago, which now has the strictest, tightest gun control in the nation and see how well they area up there.

    Leave the rest of us alone.

    –JD




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    1. I must dispute your use of “sheep” while addressing the minions of CSGV. Sheep are genteel but dumb animals that provide clothing and sustenance without being a risk to anybody. CSGV is more like a rabid varmint: small, petty and dangerous if kept unchecked and they reproduce. 🙂




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  3. Picking a Nit: 1895 is 117 years ago, not 107. SYG just got 10 more years of recognized jurisprudence! 🙂




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  4. Actually, I find it pretty easy to believe the CSGV mouth-breather was that stupid and not lying.

    In my opinion most anti-gunners are stunningly ignorant about firearm issues and/or amazingly stupid. I think only a select core of some of the anti-gun activists are informed enough and smart enough to qualify as liars: Josh Sugarmann, Garen Wintemute, Michael Bellesiles, Joshua Horwitz, Dennis Henigan, and Gary Wills.




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