Moms Demand: Stay the course & fudge with the stats.

Apparently it did not matter that they got discovered lying to the people when they produced the fake stats about school shootings. Now they have come up with Mass Shootings under some new definition and we have a new epidemic.  Mass Shooting as are set in the American consciousness as one lone individual (sometimes two) who attack a public place with the intention to create mass casualties to innocent random people. But Ms. Watts & Co. seem to have changed the definition to include shooting with (I am guessing) more than one victim, perhaps more than two, anywhere including the home.

Despite claims made by the gun lobby, the overwhelming majority of mass shootings take place in private homes where gun carrying is unrestricted.

Moms Demand Mass Shootings again

You click the link and get taken to the Everytown site which gives you this “profound” analysis:

Moms Demand Mass Shootings again 2And at the bottom you can read:
“Using FBI data and media reports, we conducted a comprehensive analysis of every identifiable mass shooting between January 2009 and July 2014. There have been more than 110 mass shootings in the last 6 years.”

They used FBI data so it must be true, except that the FBI does not see mass shootings that way. From the FBI’s Critical Incident Response Group , Active Shooter / Mass Casualty Incidents:

An active shooter is an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a confined and populated area, and recent active shooter incidents have underscored the need for a coordinated response by law enforcement and others to save lives.  The FBI is committed to working with its partners to protect schools, workplaces, houses of worship, transportation centers, other public gathering sites, and communities.

I have to give it to Moms Demand: they are not deterred on doing their lying no matter how many times they are caught and embarrassed.  And I actually welcome their lying as we can use it to kill their message faster than anything else out there. None of us will reject free ammo, that much is for sure. And if Shannon keeps giving it, who are we to say no?

Once again: If their cause is righteous, why lie?

9 Replies to “Moms Demand: Stay the course & fudge with the stats.”

  1. Why do I get the feeling that if we changed the definition of “multi-car pile-up” to any accident with 2 or more vehicles (or even 3 or more) – as opposed to “single-car accidents” – traffic-related fatalities would still outnumber “mass shooting” deaths by an order of magnitude?




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    1. Go to FBI 2013 (preliminary) Crime Stats:
      http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/preliminary-semiannual-uniform-crime-report-january-june-2013

      ALL car deaths ~32,500-33,500
      ~11,400 (35%) DUI car deaths

      ALL firearm deaths ~32,000
      ~19,000 (60%) are suicides,
      ~11,000 (35%) are homicides (some justifiable LEO/citizen)
      ~900 (3%) negligent / accident

      Mass shootings (~170 to 180 victims over 5 years) for 35 per year ave.
      Homicide by all rifles (not just the scary “assault ones”) 322 (for 2012).

      Seems like MDA needs to focus on the violence part of gun violence, not the firearms like MADD focuses on Alcohol/Drugs while driving a car, not the car.




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  2. Did a quick Google image search for FBI mass shooting list.
    Most stop at 2012, but some go to 2014, looked for “neutral” source for the same timeline Jan 2009-July 2015 as the MDA data.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/17/why-timely-reliable-data-on-mass-killings-is-hard-to-find/

    Pew : 25 mass public killings / 186 victims

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/graphics/2013/mk-explore-standalone/index.html

    USA Today : 22 mass public shooting / 173 victims

    Neither break it down by “gun free zone” shooting or not.
    But using the FBI’s definition of mass-shooting (4+victims excluding the killer) the incident count is 22-24, not even close to 110.

    USA Today does list the different incidents.
    We could try to sort it out, I don’t have time right now, maybe later.




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  3. I’d like to know what they define as a “mass shooting,” because what I would consider a “mass shooting” requires a victim population larger than that of most households unless a frat party is taking place.




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  4. The fun part about it is is that they’re having to fudge more numbers in ‘RESPONSE’ to our countering their other sad attempts at propaganda. They’ve lost the initiative and are desperately scrambling to reclaim it.




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  5. HEY !!!!…..
    If Shannon says its so…then they are “settled” facts.
    If her and her “buddies” are successful in admending/destroying the 2nd admendment………..THEY will only have THEMSELVES to blame.




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