It can happen to anybody


I like Travis Haley.  He is one of the few shooting instructors that I’ve seen make videos that doesn’t look like a total, roided out, doofus from the John Woo school of shooting.  From the outtakes of the Magpul dynamics videos, he also seems like a really cool guy.  He was also Marine Recon, so you know he knows his stuff.

And just the other day, he had a negligent discharge while filming a new video.

I’m not going to berate him for it.  He had his weapon pointed in a safe direction.  He recovered quickly.  If you shoot rounds, it happens to everybody.  Yes, I’ve ND’d too.

This is a perfect example of why you should ALWAYS FOLLOW THE RULES!!!

Also, it doesn’t matter how much you want to operate with your AK (or anything else for that matter), use your damn safety.  You’re not a Delta, this is not your safety.



  1. His ND actually proved the point he was making: having your finger all tense there gets you closer to an ND and BLAM!

    It seems that the footage is from at least a few months if not a few years back as Panteao and Haley aren’t associated any longer (and it seems the split wasn’t amicable).

    The Four Rules do indeed provide redundancy and should be embraced wholeheartedly by anyone with a gun.

  2. I hate that “delta” video. Being that experienced doesn’t mean you know enough to never use the rifle’s safety, it means you know enough that no captain would ever have to berate you for it in that situation, because it would be on. His finger can be a safety all it wants, but last I checked fingers are not the only things that can push a trigger, and you’ve got a weapon hanging free. What happens when some other guy brushes against you in that line and his gear catches your trigger?

  3. Damn. Made me jump.

  4. There are those who have, and those who will have an ND. I had one, weapon in a safe direction, and no one hurt.

  5. @old NFO:
    Amen, brother! Anybody who thinks it can’t happen to them is in for a future rude awakening. Happened to me with an old HK4 pistol. If I recall correctly, This dinosaur requires that you pull the trigger, with the safety on, in order to de-cock after putting a round in the chamber. I was indoors, and I flipped the safety “on” (you guessed it – flipped the safety off) pointed at the floor, about 45 degrees, and BANG! Only the fact that I was alone kept me from dying of embarrassment. I was in a room with a cement floor covered by carpet. The bullet bounced off the cement and went thru the hung ceiling and lodged in a joist. (I checked). As usual, the fact that we have FOUR overlapping rules saved my foot or worse. I was so ashamed I never told anyone. No one noticed the dimple on the carpet or the tiny hole in the hung ceiling, so I didn’t have no ‘splainin’ to do. But, that was the most valuable lesson I ever had. The first thing I tell a newbie is the four rules, then I quiz them relentlessly. That’s my tale.

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