Sure as the gods made little green apples, Red Flag laws are back in the headlines.
For the people who think these are a great idea, I have one simple question:How many people have been convicted of misusing a Red Flag law?Whatever you want to call it — “Misusing”, “False filing”, “Obtaining under perjury”, whatever — a fraudulently-obtained Red Flag law denies the person it was obtained against a civil right. Civil rights that the Government should be bending over backwards to protect.The first Red Flag law was passed in 1999. 23 years ago. People are people, and someone has blatantly lied to obtain a Red Flag order against someone.Someone in the last 23 years has misused a Red Flag law to harass someone else.So. Show me their conviction for doing so.I know about the time someone tried to get a Red Flag order against the cops, and that doesn’t count — some animals being more equal to other animals, and all that.I’m talking about Joe Average having his civil rights taken away for a year with a misused Red Flag order. It has happened — we all know that it has happened — and I want to see the criminal record of the person who fraudulently deprived someone else of their Second Amendment right for a year.Any claim of “Well, they’re so well checked that it’s never been abused” it complete and utter horse-puckey — I was in law enforcement for 26 years, that isn’t going to fly.Absent a conviction, I will accept the name of a judge who rubber-stamped every Red Flag request to cross his desk, never turned one down, and was removed from office because of it.If you don’t have that information, then your opinion on Red Flag laws means nothing; and you should be ignored.LawDog
By Miguel.GFZ
Semi-retired like Vito Corleone before the heart attack. Consiglieri to J.Kb and AWA. I lived in a Gun Control Paradise: It sucked and got people killed. I do believe that Freedom scares the political elites.
We know at least one dude has been killed because of them…
Re Matt: I remember that incident. It was in Maryland and was created by a female relative, a niece or such, living in the home, that didn’t get something she thought she deserved… so, she called down the fire. The guy is dead as dead can be. The person(?) who started the ball rolling? Crickets.
Red Flag Laws are like #ME2, with an official mandate for violence.
Don’t forget that the people who will enforce a Federal “Red Flag” law are the same people who lied to the FISA Court and changed evidence submitted to the FISA Court in order to obtain wire tap orders for the Trump campaign, without even being sanctioned far less prosecuted.
Red Flag laws compound the current climate of “we have to do SOMEthing”. Aside the from the fraudulent claims, you have the do gooders out there who “just want to err on the side of caution”. And given the current climate you think a judge or LE is going to pass on a red flag call because the circumstances might questionable?
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Get ready for more people killed in zero-dark -thirty raids
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Red flag laws are the epitome of the Dems wanting pre-crime miracle measures for the greater good. And if it doesn’t live up to that, well then they can still weaponize it against gun owners when the time comes. Who’s to say they wouldn’t use it en masse for confiscation under some kind of emergency order?
How are ERPOs different than swatting?