1. Rings is weird about selling their guns. I needed a Colt Commander molded with the hammer back so I could close my retention strap on my holster. Rings made them, but my gun shop wasn’t able to order one, and the major houses didn’t carry that model.

   Ended up ordering from a site that seems to cater to mall ninjas (lots of cheap Kevlar crap, and fake badges) and had some bad customer feedback.

   Thankfully I didn’t have any issues, but I wasn’t pleased with the experience, tho the product is awesome.

   1. Botox Tacticool?

      1. Florida’s own! 🙂

2. I’ve never heard of a company refusing to sell their product to the general public. It’s a piece of plastic. It makes you wonder what the people at Glock are thinking. It’s not like someone could take one and produce their own Glock. And like you said, it’s not like Glock has made any earth shattering innovations in years.

   1. Uh Smith and wesson and a couple of others make leo only versions. There is nothing different just you have to register the gun with the officer’s badge. Some places won’t sell armor to civilians. I always wondered what would happen if I charged leos double, just too see how many would cry.

3. Its because Rings BlueGuns are 99% accurate in every detail. Its why I use them exclusively in my holstermaking.

   Spray paint the BlueGun with flat black, drill out a 2″ deep hole down the muzzle, and you essentially have a perfect replica Glock for use in robberies. In a stock Glock, there isn’t even one bit that is polished stainless, or a color other than black. Glock is simply wanting to avoid unnecessarily being named in frivolous lawsuits by some yutz who bought a BlueGun, painted it flat black, and committed a felony.

4. Look, I like to shoot Glocks. And when I’m holster training indoors, a BLUEGUN would be nice. Not selling them to the public is stupid, and frankly, statist, an intimation that “only the police should be armed.” Is this Glock’s actual policy? Because if it is, I can certainly sell all my Glocks.

5. “Glock has been pretty much stagnant for a couple of decades now. Other than playing with the shrinking machine, nothing truly advanced (won’t even go revolutionary) has come out from the Teutonic brain trust.”

   Who needs to be revolutionary when you have a legion of fanboys that proselytize how your guns the TEH BEST EVAR!!! and that if you dare to get into a gunfight armed with anything other than a Glock, you will die when your gun jams because you looked at it cross-eyed?

   Honestly, I’m not anti Glock. I’m thinking about getting the new Glock 41, and probably will if Ruger doesn’t release an SR45c within the year. I just hate the Glock culture. I’m tired of going into gun stores and having some kid in 5.11 pants try to force a Glock on me like when what I really want to look at is some old, deeply blued, S&W 586, or Browning Hi-Power.

   1. Hey! Hey! What you got against 5.11 pants? It’s on, baby! Pants wars!! 😉

      1. Nothing against the 5.11 pants. I have a couple of pairs. The regular tactical pants are great for motorcycle riding, nice and roomy to wear my kevlar long-johns underneath, and cargo pockets for carrying stuff. The covert cargo pants are great too. I use those for work a lot. As a field engineer I have to be in business causal (Dockers and a polo shirt) but need to be able to crawl around on my hands and knees to do inspections. The hidden cargo pockets are great for my flashlight, safety glasses, pens, etc.

         The thing is, 5.11 pants have sort of become like Glocks. Most of the civilians who wear them try to pull off a dress code that makes them look like plan clothes SWAT or a Blackwater contractor. You know exactly what I’m talking about: 5.11 pants, skin tight golf shirt in that sweat wicking material, high-speed combat boots, rigger belt. Nothing screams mall ninja more than a wardrobe that says “I protected VIPs in the Green Zone even though I was in middle school during the battle of Fallujah.”

         I am old enough, and dorky enough to remember when the 5.11 pants were sold under the Royal Robbins brand of outdoor clothing, and to know 5.11 is a reference to the mountain climbing technical difficulty rating where 5.1 was the lowest grade and 5.11 was the highest.

   2. “Who needs to be revolutionary when you have a legion of fanboys that proselytize how your guns the TEH BEST EVAR!!!…”

      ^^This.^^ Heck, if Glock decided to be “revolutionary”, they’d probably lose a bunch of fanbois who’d shriek that Glock “sold out”.

      Look, I get it: Glocks work. But so do my Springfield and my S&W; they’ve each experienced the same number of jams and FTEs as any Glock fanboi’s gun (zero). And I guarantee you, if you don’t clean and lube it every now and then, the “infallible” Glock will start to have problems, too.

      IMHO, Glock is in danger of going down the same route as Colt. If they get too caught up in exclusive LEO and military contracts and cease marketing to “civilians”, they’ll be gone, and their legion of loyal fanbois (“civilians”, every one) will not be enough to save them. And, also IMHO, this BLUEGUN move is another step in that direction.

   3. >>> Who needs to be revolutionary when you have a legion of fanboys that proselytize how your guns the TEH BEST EVAR!!! <<<

      Col. Samuel Colt after 1851…
      Benjamin Henry after 1873…
      John Moses Browning after 1890…

      Each had massively popular, revolutionary models fairly early in their careers, which were all ultimately eclipsed by latter designs.

      1. The ignorance in this post is massive. So John Browning never had a massively popular or revolutionary new model after 1890?

         Go back and do some research before you make an ass of yourself, again.

         And Rings should have told Glock to get bent. As if I needed another reason to never own a brick

      2. The 1911 has been in continuous production for 103 years. No other gun can claim that.

         The idea of Gaston Glock, to reduce the total number of moving parts and a polymer frame was revolutionary. Glock does deserve a lot of respect in that regards. I’m just tired of the Glock Beliebers and their hype.

6. It’s probably a federal contracting issue, not any policy of Glock’s. From what I understand (and I am a little fuzzy on this, as it’s been a few years since I was told about it in detail), certain state/federal agencies stipulate in their contracts that no items they buy may be sold to mere peasants like us. So Glock probably just doesn’t want to put their blue gun contracts on the line. Can’t say that I LIKE it, but it makes sense financially.

   1. Yes it hard to believe, but in a lot of design contracts, public and private, the ‘customer’ owns the design. Here public means public domain, unless restricted for national security reasons it is open records and anybody can get the complete design file under FOIA.

      So, while the fabricator may claim that sale only to government agencies, it is very likely anybody can obtain the compete design and sell it to anybody they want. If you want to go down that rabbit hole. Easier to 3D scan an actual glock whatever and sell a blue plastic training aid to the genera public now that there is a market.

7. So…nobody’s gonna point out Glock is Austrian?

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