Police say Amado Contreras, 25, and his 24-year old brother, Landyer, attacked Landrick Hamilton, 24, with a pool cue in front of the college’s main building. During the fight, Hamilton got a gun from his car at about 1:50 p.m. ET and fired one shot, hitting Amado Contreras.
All three men are claiming self-defense. Amando Contreras’ injury is not life-threatening, officials say.
The shooting comes almost eight weeks after a Florida appeals court struck down a regulation on another state university campus that banned students from storing guns in their cars. Florida law prevents anyone from possessing or exhibiting guns on school campuses, including university and college campuses; however, the same law says the ban doesn’t apply to guns in cars.
via Shooting on Fla. campus may have been self-defense.
First things first: If you are attacking somebody with a pool cue, that is not simply a “fight” but assault with a deadly weapon. And two versus one kicks in disparity of force so it looks (very initially) that it is a defensive situation.
Hamilton has no prior history of discipline problems at the college, which was known as Brevard Community College until last year. But he violated the school’s policy, Glisch said.
This is gonna prove interesting and see it heading for court because of the recent court decision brought by the good Folks at Florida Carry:
The shooting comes almost eight weeks after a Florida appeals court struck down a regulation on another state university campus that banned students from storing guns in their cars. Florida law prevents anyone from possessing or exhibiting guns on school campuses, including university and college campuses; however, the same law says the ban doesn’t apply to guns in cars.
The college authorities would look like pretentious jackasses for punishing a student who by manner of force majeure had to “violate” campus policy. It would be literally to say “Dear chap, we much rather see you dead that to have violated our sacrosanct directives.” Then again, Academia is that much stupid.
We’ll see what happens with this case.
A box of 9mm says they do charge him with violating the campus policy.
How do the Contreras plan to justify their “self-defense” claim?
“We were afraid that if we started attacking him, he might get a gun out of his car and shoot us, so we attacked him so that he couldn’t get a gun out of his car and shoot us.”
Simple.
“We’re the victims here! That guy tried to hit us in the pool cue with his head! Besides, we heard on the news that all we have to do is claim self-defense and ‘Stand-Your-Ground’ will justify anything. The news people wouldn’t lie to us, so here we are.”
(said only slightly tongue-in-cheek)
I try not to talk about my pool cue in public. People don’t usually try to headbutt it that way.
Back before the insanity of declaring “Gun Free Zones” as a magic talisman to keep students safe, there were no such things as “school shootings”. There were shootings that happened to occur on school property as a result of argument or conflict that started outside the school. There’s a record that David Barton has of someone going into a one room schoolhouse in the late 1800s with a gun to shoot the teacher (or someone?), and being stopped when virtually every child in the classroom pulled out their own revolver. That was before the country went bat sh*t crazy.
That sure is what this looks like. Why would “sum dood” and his brother come out of nowhere with a pool cue to wail on some other dood if it’s not the continuation of a fight started somewhere else? This isn’t a school shooting, it’s a shooting that happened to be at the college.
I think the filtering of stories works both ways. Very few of our fellow gun activists (and you, btw) have discussed the rather messy story of the Tampa theater shooter. It’s not very complimentary to our cause.
Just because the shooter claimed to be attacked and was acting on self-defense, it does not mean it gets an automatic post in this blog. If that were the case, every shooting in South Florida would have to be posted here. Curtis Reeve’s case has notoriety because of the circumstances, location and because the press decided to make it relevant.
I need to know more. Did he leave the scene and return with a gun? Or, did he retrieve the gun in the thick of battle?
shooting happened in the parking lot next to the almost-victim’s car.
Actually, the only reason we know about any of these shootings is because they are reported by the media and “made relevant” by the press. So bloggers, like yourself and others, do tend to pick and choose which ones are the ones they care to write about.
BTW, besides the Reeves incident, Michael Dunn is also planning to use SYG in Jacksonville. That’s another case that might have some affect on our SYG rights.
In the above case, Fox News reports:
“The man being attacked retreated to his vehicle, where he grabbed a gun and shot one of his attackers in the chest, the report said.”
“Actually, the only reason we know about any of these shootings is because they are reported by the media and “made relevant” by the press. “
So? I did not hear a peep from Moms Demand Action or Brady or any of the other Antis which is the point I am making but you seem to have missed.
“So bloggers, like yourself and others, do tend to pick and choose which ones are the ones they care to write about.”
Well, it is MY blog. I do choose to pick whatever goes in it. The Antis keep telling us horror stories of school shootings (even the ones that do not happen at school or are not school shootings in what the expression means to a majority) and I chose to pick one with a happy ending.
“BTW, besides the Reeves incident, Michael Dunn is also planning to use SYG in Jacksonville. That’s another case that might have some affect on our SYG rights.”
And so what? Did the bad guys NEVER use self defense as an excuse before? SYG is pretty safe in Florida.