So, it is the caliber that kills people and not the shooter.
The likelihood that a shooting will be fatal is directly related to the caliber of the firearm used, according to a new study released Friday by Northeastern University and Duke University. The researchers conclude that in their sample of 367 shooting cases in Boston during a five-year period, there would have been nearly 40 percent fewer deaths if only low-caliber weapons had been used.
New study on firearm caliber questions the notion that ‘guns don’t kill people’
They discovered water is wet and fire burns, holy crap, we are talking Nobel prize stuff right here.
“Our study gets to the heart of the notion that ‘guns don’t kill people; people kill people,’” said Anthony Braga, a Distinguished Professor of Criminal Justice at Northeastern.
Must have discovered them infamous “possessed guns” that shoot on their own without the intervention of human manipulation.
“That slogan is based on the contention that gun control is ineffective because if a person wants to kill someone, they will find a way to do it, no matter what types of weapons are available.”
No, you Dumb Diploma-Bearer, that is not what it means and it never was. It simply states that unless there is a human behind the gun pulling the trigger. But thanks for admitting your focus is Gun Control.
The study, which was published in JAMA Network Open and funded by the United States Bureau of Justice Assistance, concludes that it is incorrect to dismiss firepower as a factor in shooting fatalities. The authors do not propose any specific gun control measures and acknowledge that both the intent of the shooter and chance also play a role in whether the victim lives or dies.
I reckon they mean that the shooter after all needs to pull the trigger (contrary to their opening statement) , be accurate and intend to hit the victim. Something along the lines that a hit with a .22LR will hurt much more than a miss with a .45 ACP, another slogan we share on the gun community. And, of course that a gun cannot shoot itself while somebody walks in front of it.
“People who oppose gun control are not convinced that the type of weapon matters,” he said. “We are not saying caliber is more important than intent.
Yes, that is what you are saying. Problem is that it is not that simple.
I have to come to the conclusion that these PhD Idiots are being particularly dense about the issue. a .22LR and a .223 are the same caliber class, yet the amount of damage they create is so different that it is not even funny. They do not know what they are talking about and here is the proof, remember, this study is about what calibers do to people. So what is caliber?
So how did these distinguished members of intelligentsia performed their research?
For those Ballistically Impaired, .38 and .357 are the same caliber. Yet it is grouped with the .45. The 7.62×39 is a 30 caliber bullet which it also gets put in the same .45 ACP & .44 Magnum goulash. This is a monumental mistake that can only be explained by people with an absolute ignorance in the matter decided to try to do a study without understanding the basic principles of ballistics. These are principles that any gun owner has and that any “redneck” that reloads knows by heart. Who knows how much time and money they spent in creating this study and yet they failed to do some simple reading of material that could be found no further than your Amazon account or public library: A reloading manual.
Let’ me give you some examples:
These are the same diameter of bullets and anybody that shoots revolvers know so. But according to the study, the one on the left is of less diameter that the one on the right.
The one on the left is a 7.62×39 round which has a .30 round caliber bullet a top, rifle round. yet the geniuses put it in the same category as the .357 Magnum even though as awesome as it is, it does not do the same amount for damage even when it is a bigger caliber than the rifle bullet.
Again the same idiocy: The 7,62×39 a rifle round allegedly makes the same amount of damage than the venerable .45 ACP. Even the most die-hard fan of John Moses Browning will not commit the indecency of saying that a handgun round will outmatch that rifle round.
Anybody that shoots and most that do not shoot understand that what makes a bullet exact more or less damage is not one factor but a combination of (at the very basic) caliber, weight, shape and velocity. Our “researchers” either simply ignored the very basics of terminal ballistics or were ignorant about it.
I think this whole study was a “woke” attempt to cause ruckus and maybe to get some research funding which is the number one priority is College for the Intelligentsia as I reckon the salary might not be enough.
The sad part? This “break-through study” is not only poorly structured and research, but already done by true scientists. Once again, Amazon would have come to the rescue:
This is one of several books in the subject. I’d say that whoever gave the grant to the people who did the “research” should demand his money back.
PS: I would love to get hand in the raw data. I want to see how many people were killed/injured with 10mm and .44 Magnums. Those are calibers you do not hear much being involved in crime or other criminal mischiefs.
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The types of people who prepared this study are the same types who are going to try to ban the .380 before the .45 because the .380 is three numbers and therefore must be more powerful.
It’s not a serious study, it’s an attempt to generate propaganda.
And grant money to fund the studies.
I know JAMA and of their agenda all too well. So I have not even bothered to read the crap.
They claim that they will not make policy statements, yet know that it will be used to do so by others, so again, full of crap.
What, no .223 from an evil AR-15? Oh yeah that would skew their results. Surprised they didn’t include the .50 BMG.
At least one guy survived a 50 BMG hit to the head. See the video here:
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