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Daily Kos super Fudd goes off on Twitter about why it’s bad that you notice what’s going on in the world

ByJ. Kb

Mar 30, 2021

Mark Sumner writes for the ultra-Left wing site, Daily Kos.  He thought he, as a gun owner, would enlighten the internet how any gun owner with a gun made since the 1970s is a bloodthirsty wannabe-killer who as drunk the NRA’s Kool-aid.

 

 

First of all, two pistols, two rifles, and three shotguns is not a lot of guns to own.  That’s not even a busy day at the range.

From the fact that he mentions all of his guns are at least 40 years old and that he’s a hunter, you know exactly what sort of Fudd he is.

The thesis of his thread is that gun ownership was some sort of pastoral, outdoorsy, sportsman-related venture, where guys who liked to bag a deer or a couple of ducks every year would guy a new gun every now and again.

Then, suddenly, in 2008 something happened that made all these people decide to start buying murder weapons for “hunting people.”

He’s wrong.  Several things happened that he failed to take into account.

The first big awakening of the modern gun community was the 1992 LA riots.  There had been riots in the past, but this was the first time they were covered on a 24-hour news cycle, live in color, on people’s TVs.

Americans watched as the police totally failed to contain the violence.  They watched as stores were looted and a trucker was nearly beat to death as a news helicopter circled above broadcasting that into people’s homes.

They watched as Korean shopkeepers defended their property as the police fell back and were nowhere to be seen.

Then, two years later, the Brady Bill and Clinton Assault Weapon Ban were passed into law.  This was the next big awakening.  For the first time, many gun owners discovered that yes, the government really could take guns away from people.  It took 10 years for that ban to sunset, and when it did people start to stock up.

The demand for AR-15 style rifles, as much as by people who wanted to get ahead of any future bans as actual performance, drove the economy of scale to do what it does.  In 1994, if you wanted an AR-15 your choice was Colt, and maybe Colt, and if you looked really hard, you might find a Bushmaster, but probably Colt.

By the late 2000s, every gun guy with a machine shop capable of holding tolerance in billet aluminum was making AR-15s.  The price on an AR came down so much that it being the most popular rifle in America was driven as much by cost and the availability of accessories.  There are only so many ways to build a Remington 700 or Savage 110.  There are infinite ways to deck out an AR-15.

By the late 2000s, if you wanted a casual rifle, buying a 30-30 lever gun was going to cost you a lot more than a DMPS or Double Star AR.  Same for ammo (boy those were the days, $5 boxes of 223).

Near the end of the ABW sunset, another thing happened, 9/11.  On the heels of that were several other high-profile terrorist mass shootings.

The 24-hour news cycle made it crystal clear that when the shit hit the fan, the police were nowhere to be seen and only showed up after it was all over to draw chalk around the bodies.

In 2005, Americans witnessed the first large natural disaster that caused civil unrest with Hurricane Katrina.  Looting, violence, total failure of the police to maintain order, and then the gun confiscations.

Then there were the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Lots of veterans came home, having never shot before or maybe having come from hunting families, and they liked the rifles they were issued.  As they left the service or simply were rotated home, they wanted AR-15s for personal use.  This, with a large dose of patriotism, kicked off the tacticool culture that helped make the AR-15 even more popular.

As for handguns, the mid-1990s through to the early 2000s saw an explosion in concealed carry.  Before 1987, shall issue was limited to mostly rural states, Alabama, Indiana, Maine, the Dakotas.  When Florida went shall issue in 1987, that started the ball rolling on most states going shall issue, and quite a number going Constitutional carry.

Concealed carry did more for handgun sales than anything else.  An entire market for more compact firearms for personal protection exploded during that period of the early 1990s to the late 2000s.

This went along with the suburbanization of American society.  Suburban Americans weren’t as interested in hunting, especially younger Americans.  The dramatic rise in gun ownership was driven by a desire for personal protection in a world of Islamic terrorism, riots, mass looting, and the utter failures of law enforcement in a face of a crisis.

All of these individual trends coalesced into Gun Culture 2.0.

We own guns for personal defense and for sport.  We own lots of guns because we want to have a lifetime supply in case of another AWB.  We also like to accessorize, so we have different models in different calibers with different barrel lengths and optics for different reasons.  Gun Culture 2.0 owns AR-15s like a golfer owns clubs.  One for long-range, one for short-range, one in a subsonic caliber for a can, one in 9mm for USPSA PCC, one just because you had an extra scope lying around after a late night on eBay and a few too many beers and you just can’t have a homeless scope dammit, you need a rifle to mount it on.

Where there is fear, it’s not unjustified.

In just the last couple of years, there have been attacks on Synagogues and churches.  Right now there is a spike in anti-Asian violence.  People getting slashed and shoved in front of trains left-and-right in NYC.

Don’t forget about the 2020 summer of violence, a year’s worth of Antifa violence, billions of dollars in looting damage, and a crime wave facilitated by Progressive anti-Policing anti-Bail, COVID-get-out-of-jail-free, and prosecutorial discretion that has brought us back to the worst days of the 1990s.

We are on our own.  The cops have either abandoned us, have sided with the criminals, or have been hamstrung by the politicians who side with the criminals.  Of course, we want to defend ourselves.

This is not unreasonable.

Except in the mind of an extremist Fudd who thinks a “new gun” is one that was made before my grandfather was born and has nothing but seething condescension and contempt for a gun culture he thinks he’s better than.

Fuck this guy.

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19 thoughts on “Daily Kos super Fudd goes off on Twitter about why it’s bad that you notice what’s going on in the world”

  1. Hes preachin to the elite know nothings…. when you already have an “opinion”about We the People, it shows. 7 guns OOOOOOHHHHHH the danger!
    I think I will write him and tell him about the 1 MILLION Americans that own REAL “assault weapons “…

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    2. I saw that, too.

      My response would be, “I have in my house, right at this moment: [redacted] pistols, [redacted] rifles, and [redacted] shotguns. Which is not so much, especially considering my wife can adeptly handle any of them so I have to share.”

      (Numbers redacted, because Nunya Bidness.)

      My other response would be, “What’s wrong with your wife, that she doesn’t want to learn to use them?”

  4. He is the same sort of elitist that in the ’70s took their multiple thousand dollar Weatherby to hunt big game in the rockies or Alaska, their custom built H&H double to Africa, and spent Saturday afternoon shooting trap with their Beretta over-under at a private club. They wouldn’t touch a hand gun unless it was collectable Colt or Luger. These folks regularly assured us that no one wanted take away our hunting rifles, but that no one “needed” a semi-automatic rifle or a cheap “Saturday Night Special.” 50 years later and they’re still spouting the same bull crap.

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    1. These folks regularly assured us that no one wanted take away our hunting rifles….

      You mean those “high-powered, scoped, sniper rifles”? “Fine for a battlefield, but they don’t belong on our streets”? No, they’d never want to take those! [/sarc]

      “Gun control” proponents have no new arguments. They haven’t in a century or more.

      Just like any other form of Prohibition, once the offensive item is decided, all the same arguments in favor of banning it come out. The arguments against guns aren’t fundamentally different than those against alcohol in the early 1900s: fuels/enables violent crime, no good person has/uses them, if it saves just one life, do it for the children, piles of anecdotes about how So-and-so died because of [offensive item] but none about how Such-and-such’s life was saved through the judicious and proper use of [offensive item], etc. Nothing new under the sun.

      I can just see historical photo of the truck full of dour-faced women with the sign saying “Lips that touch liquor will not touch these”, except the sign reads, “Hands that touch firearms will not touch me.” (There’s a Photoshop idea for anyone interested. Have at it.)

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  5. You hit just about all the point I could think of. I also think there is an insignificant function of where you were and the gun types that were there at the local range in the 90s-2000s. My range was mostly old dudes and catered to NRA small bore and high power mstches, so I didnt have too much exposure to modern rifles apart from the 3 that seemed to perpetually be on the shelf in the gun shop. As that generation died off things changed and we were seeing lots more modeled rifled as well as more people shooting them in high power matches.

    What this guy does is make the common mistake that his experience is everyones experience.

    The only other point id add is Obama and Sandy Hook. That motivated lots of people to do lots of things and I think licked off the modern wave of buy everything before its banned.

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    1. I don’t think he’s making a mistake; I think he is one of those far-left victim disarmers who pretends to know something about guns and uses that pretense to justify his nasty notions. In that, he is no different from supposed ex-military Dem politicians who want to disarm us.

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  7. Excellent article except for one omission. Those of us who gunned up because we see the imminent need to defend against a rogue government. One that calls us deplorable, bitter clingers, dog faced pony soldiers and a myriad of other derogatory terms. A government that will soon be aiming to herd us into cattle cars for the last ride and has stated such. I, personally, will not be going there standing. I have seen the rooms full of human hair in Aushwitz, the rooms full of children’s shoes and dolls, and worse, taken from citizens who didn’t fit into the new “utopia”. If the government wants to call me a terrorist because I am a white Christian hetero male with military service under my belt, so be it. I will get off the bench when the time comes, as our forefathers did. I just wanted to be left alone.

    Remember “everything that hitler did was legal”

    Sic Vis Pacem, parabellum

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  9. A huge reason a lot of AR’s weren’t sold before the late 2000’s was simple. They were banned for a decade before that.

    Want to get Americans to buy something? Tell them they can’t.

    Also, police etc started using them. A lot of folks make purchases that mirror what this local cops are issued. For the last 15 years or so that’s been a pistol with more than 10 rounds and an AR15 pretty much nationwide

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    1. They were never outright banned — you could get an AR-15 very easily, as long is it didn’t have a couple of scary cosmetic features.

      1. Oh? But with the current batch of “assault weapon” [sic] bills that’s not the case; they tend to (a) list a pile of cosmetic features and (b) list a boatload of specific model numbers including every AR-15 known to mankind.

  10. He’s griping about how the AR-15 *became* America’s favorite rifle.

    When some of his guns were being made, the Winchester 30-30 lever gun was America’s favorite rifle…

    … and the New York Yankees were America’s favorite team, and they’ve always BEEN America’s favorite team, and they’ll always BE America’s favorite team. *snicker* *snort*

    Here’s a news flash: Times change. You can either keep up or get left behind.

    He may not like the AR-15, and that’s fine. I get that. Everyone’s allowed their opinion and preferences.

    But his opinion isn’t any more or less valid than mine, and he doesn’t get to dictate what I may or may not own based on his preference.

    Really, what I hear him saying is, “Modern guns are controversy-generating crap. Nobody should own guns less than 50 years old, or pay less than museum-quality-C&R-level prices to get them.”

    Which is just another form of elitism designed to keep normal people outside the bubble.

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    1. Precisely. “Black codes” were designed to disarm the non-rich. More recently, “Saturday Night Special” is a racist term that means “a gun affordable to people other than my rich friends”

      1. Also that he’s fine with the Heller decision’s focus on protecting guns “in common use at the time”, which taken literally means civilians NEVER see the benefit or increased safety of modern metallurgical/materials science or engineering, because we just don’t get newer models, since anything new is by definition not “in common use”.

        Which is ironic, given that even his 1908-era shotgun was new at one time. At that point in history the now-venerable 1911 pistol hadn’t even been introduced yet!

        *headdesk*

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