You say the words “National Reciprocity” in front of selected and elected New York City official, you would get an earful why that is a bad idea.
“New York City’s well-recognized success in the continued decrease in shootings and murder is in no small part a result of effective control of guns on our streets,” NYPD Commissioner James O’Neill said.
“Any measures that would contribute to the increase of firearms in New York could only jeopardize the level of safety that New Yorkers have benefited from through effective gun control. This proposed bill creates a real risk to public safety.”
NYC bigs blast Republican gun bill
They will tell you it is the tool of terrorists:
Also this week, New York County District Attorney Cy Vance warned lawmakers who are backing national reciprocity that they are playing into the hands of the Islamic State militant group in Iraq and Syria. “This bill is supported, I am sure, by ISIS,”
‘Dangerous’ Concealed Carry Reciprocity Measures Condemned by Mayors’ Group
And, of course, it is that them Fly Over Redneck states do not set the same criteria as New York:
Jimmy Olsen, a 5-year veteran with the NYPD, has his doubts about the bill. “I think that this will be a tough sell, especially for the amount of safety precautious we (NYPD) take,” said Olsen. “The gun laws in New York are strict, but with all the violence in the world, I wouldn’t want to see someone from like Texas come here with the amount of arsenal and go crazy…
…“What’s right for one state is not right for all,” said Attorney General Schneiderman in a statement. “This lowest-common-denominator approach would undermine states’ basic responsibility to protect our communities – including by determining who may carry a concealed, loaded gun within our borders”
Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act – The Bronx Journal
And pry tell us what are those “safety precautions” that NYPD used to make sure only those worthy of a permit fulfilled?
John Chambers, a self-described gun lawyer to the stars, stands accused of bribing David Villanueva, an ex-supervisor in the NYPD’s gun licensing division, for hard-to-obtain gun permits — including for a client who was being investigated for domestic abuse, according to prosecutors.
The government’s key witness, Villanueva, who is cooperating with the feds, will tell the jury that Chambers gave him tickets to Broadway shows and baseball games, an $8,000 Paul Picot watch and cash hidden in magazines.
In exchange, Villanueva will say he helped Chambers get gun licenses with the NYPD and with the Nassau County Police Department.
Ex-prosecutor to go on trial for alleged gun bribery scheme
And other stringent “safety precautions” included in the process to obtain a NYC gun permit were:
Frank Soohoo, who pleaded guilty in 2016, plied Villanueva and Ochetel with trips to the Bahamas, Mexico and Hawaii, the ex-police sergeant said. Soohoo also threw lavish parties at his Queens gun store for the officers and occasionally hired hookers to attend, Villanueva said.
In exchange, Soohoo got help getting permits, including advice on how to help a client who was “federally barred” from legally owning a gun, Villanueva said.
Chambers provided Villanueva with dinners, tickets to Broadway shows, clothes, watches and baseball memorabilia, the ex-sergeant said, including autographed photos of Alex Rodriguez and Mickey Mantle and a signed Willie Randolph baseball.
Ex-cop: NYPD gun license division was a bribery machine
That is what May Issue looks like. That is the corruption it breeds. The politicians fill their mouths with pretty words assuring their way is the best way and they are right: It is the best way for them as gun permits are but gifts to be issued in exchange of favors may it be monetary or political. But hey, they are better that us, right?
Maybe they are right after all. Maybe we should continue having agreements between states rather than have some NYC “better” who obtained his gun permit via hookers and cash, to walk the streets of Miami endangering the lives of my fellow citizens.
Hat Tip Chuck B.
I had a ccw insstructor who had been a sherrif’s deputy in LA for a while. A permit was basically one’s receipt for a suitable donation to the sherrif’s reelection fund, according to him.
Jimmy Olsen moved out of Metropolis?
Why haven’t these clowns been charged with: 18 U.S. Code § 242 – Deprivation of rights under color of law?
Surely, the Bill of Rights is being infringed upon by ‘May Issue’ laws.
The problem is that you and I can’t bring those charges, only DAs can and of course they will not. Professional courtesy…
Impeachment would be another option. Still hard but at least not entirely impossible.
National Reciprocity will destroy the anti-gun movement.
It could if it ever passed, but there is no reason to believe it will.
For that matter, it’s obvious to anyone who can read the plain English of the Constitution that it isn’t necessary; the Constitution already requires each state to honor the actions of another. If that applies to marriage and driver’s licenses, as of course it does, then it must also apply to concealed carry permits.
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I happen to like the notion that the only reason some guy from Texas isn’t going to bring guns to New York City and go crazy, is that they have this permit system that will keep the crazy guy from Texas from getting a permit, and have some magical procedures that would keep the crazy guy from bringing guns into New York City.
Never mind that there’s really nothing magical about keeping guns hidden in the trunk of a car until you get to where you’re going, and no sane wannabe murderer is going to bother trying to get a permit first! Particularly at NYC, where it’s known that it’s practically impossible to get a permit anyway. Heck, I suspect the permitting process is so arduous, it might just drive someone to mass murder.
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