Month: March 2024

More justification for lethal force in defense of property

Nadia Vitels, 52, who was found stuffed in duffel bag in her Manhattan apartment was ‘killed by two SQUATTERS who beat her to death’ as cops hunt male and female suspects

Police have revealed that the mother found murdered and stuffed into a duffel bag at her New York City apartment were a pair of squatters who beat the woman to death.

Nadia Vitels, 52, was found dead in the East 31st Street apartment in Manhattan’s Kips Bay on March 14 after her family called the building superintendent to do a wellness check.

The medical examiner ruled her death a homicide on Friday after an autopsy ruled she died from multiple facial fractures, a brain bleed, two broken ribs and blunt-force trauma to the head.

Now, NYPD Chief of Detectives says the suspects – already believed to be a black male and a black female both in their 20s – were squatting in Vitels’ apartment.

‘We believe that some squatters took the apartment over and this woman came home … and walked in on the squatters that were there,’ Kenny said.

Squatting is violence.

It is taking property by force.

Typically, it’s passive aggressive force, but in this case, the squatters murdered a woman to continue squatting.

If you come home and find uninvited people in your home, you should have the right to use lethal force to remove those people, before they kill you to squat in your home.

Friday Feedback

Well, we made it through another week. Nothing destroyed the world, as we know it.

During WWI, WWII, through the end of the draft, in America, there was a core of people called “conscientious objectors”. These were people who were unwilling to kill for any reason.

This became “the thing” to do when you wanted to avoid the draft during Vietnam. Most so-called conscientious objectors were culled during the interview process. The question asked were of the sort: Would you use violence to defend yourself? What would you do if your wife/girlfriend was being raped?

If you answered any of the questions with some sort of violence, you lost your conscientious objector status.

I consider myself to be a constitutional absolutist. The constitution means what it was understood by its plain text at the time it was adopted, with the amendments meaning what the plain text meant when the amendment was ratified.

Text, history, and tradition is the correct method to interpret The Constitution.

“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” This is the plain text of the Second Amendment.

I’ve always considered “The People” to include more than just citizens. The Bill of Rights does not mention citizens. It uses “the people”, “the accused”, “him”, “his”, “person”, “himself”, “owner”. These are terms that encompass more than just citizens.

So I am torn when I learn of a case where a bad person is found to be part of The People. I don’t want bad people to be a part of The People.

This leads to the following for me: It is possible for somebody to be a part of The People and have certain inalienable rights, and still be deported or incarcerated. When they are released, they should have access to their rights returned. If they are deported and return, they still have inalienable rights. We can incarcerate them or deport them again.

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Rogue Santa

Oleg Volk sure takes damned good photos.

But besides making me look badass, the photo gives you details of the DP28 worth looking. For example, note the front sight; originally the gun was shooting a bit left and since the rear sight is fixed for drift, it is the front one that gets adjusted which was literally done with a mallet. Then you have the ejection port that sends the brass down rather than sideways. And lastly and most interesting is the gas system: If you look right in front of the bipod, you can see that is more like an exhaust pipe coming out of the barrel and sending gases into the bolt down that tube.  The gun is stupidly simple, but that is full auto for you.

Lethal force in defense of property

 

Moment TikToker tells followers how to ‘invade’ American homes

A TikTok influencer is advising his followers on how to ‘invade’ American homes and invoke squatter’s rights, making it difficult for them to be removed from properties.

Leonel Moreno, who goes by @leitooficial_25 online and appears to be a Venezuelan migrant, has told his followers that under US law, ‘if a house is not inhabited, we can seize it’.

He is referring to squatter’s rights, or adverse possession laws – a common law principle that allows an illegal inhabitant to acquire ownership of a property based on continuous occupation without the legal owner’s consent.

Moreno, alleging he has friends who ‘have already taken about seven homes’, argued the only way for migrants to not live in the streets or be a ‘public burden’ is to ‘seize’ and ‘invade’ abandoned properties.

If you read American news, you will learn that he’s not that far off from right.

Fed-up homeowner arrested after tense standoff with squatters ‘stealing’ $1M house she inherited from parents

A New York City property owner recently ended up in handcuffs following a fiery standoff with alleged squatters who she has been trying to boot from her family’s home, tense footage shows.

Adele Andaloro, 47, was nabbed after changing the locks last month on the $1 million home in Flushing, Queens, that she says she inherited from her parents when they died, ABC’s Eyewitness News reported.

Andaloro claims the ordeal erupted when she started the process of trying to sell the home last month but realized squatters had moved in — and brazenly replaced the entire front door and locks.

She said she got fed up, and went to her family’s home on 160th Street — with the local TV outlet in tow — on Feb. 29 and called a locksmith to change the locks for her.

In New York City, a person can claim “squatter’s rights” after just 30 days of living at a property.

Andaloro was ultimately given an unlawful eviction charge because she had changed the locks and hadn’t provided a new key to the person staying there, the NYPD confirmed to The Post.

According to the law, squatters must treat the property they are occupying as their home, such as doing maintenance.

In reality, squatters usually destroy the property they are squatting in, and homeowners insurance won’t cover property damage from squatters.

Given both the extreme cost of housing and the principle of the matter, I absolutely and unequivocally believe that a home owner should have the right to use lethal force in the removal of squatters.

If someone breaks into a home that is not theirs, and tries to live there, the home owner should have the right to go in tell the squatter to leave, and if the squatter doesn’t, the home owner can shoot the squatter and drag his body to the curb.

This won’t happen in Blue states, but Red states need to make this the law.

Fascism flourishes in Gun Free Zones.

That answers the questions about Guns On Campus having a chilling effect on the free exchange of ideas.

Just the opposite. Ain’t that something?

the right of The People

In June 2020, Heriberto Carbajal-Flores was found in possession of a handgun in Little Village, a neighborhood of Chicago.

As an illegal alien, he was charged under 18 U.S.C. §922(g)(5), possession of a firearm by an alien who is illegally or unlawfully in the United States.

  1. It shall be unlawful for any person—
    1. who, being an alien—
      1. is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
      2. except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(26)));

    to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

Unlawful Acts, 18 U.S.C. § 922 (U.S. 1968)

In her December 2022 order, Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman but it this way:

The Court presumes familiarity with its April 13, 2022 order denying Carbajal-Flores’ first motion to dismiss. As relevant here, on June 1, 2020, Defendant possessed a handgun in the Little Village neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois. Carbajal-Flores contends that he received and used the handgun for self-protection and protection of property. Because of Carbajal-Flores’ citizenship status, he was charged in violation of 18 U.S.C. §922(g)(5), which prohibits any noncitizen who is not legally authorized to be in the United States from “possess[ing] in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.”
United States v. Carbajal-Flores, No. 20-cr-00613, slip op. at 1 (N.D. Ill. Dec. 19, 2022)

In her order, she talks about citizenship status and noncitizen. This is a strange way of putting it, but acceptable.

She then goes on to state the Heller methodology, as affirmed by Bruen correctly. Text, History, and Tradition.

The state argued that Carbajal-Flores was not part of The People because he was not a “law-abiding” resident of the United States. In turn, Carbajal-Flores argued that because the Seventh Circuit held that the Second Amendment protects an illegal alien’s right to keep and bear arms.

That rabbit hole leads to US v. Meza-Rodrigues. This is an opinion issued by a three judge merits panel for the Seventh Circuit court. That panel included the infamous judge Easterbrook and Judge Wood. They are infamous for finding that some firearms aren’t really arms under the plain text of the Second Amendment.

But as this case was about an illegal alien, or as Judge Wood put it whom we will call “unauthorized aliens”United States V. Mariano a. Meza-Rodriguez, 798 F.3d 664 (7th Cir. 2015), they had to twist differently than when it is actual law-abiding citizens.

Judge Wood expressed her grave concerns: The consequences of Meza-Rodriguez’s conviction are not theoretical; his right ever to reenter the United States hangs in the balance.id. at 6.

Yeah, you or me having our rights denied, no big deal, having an illegal alien have to stay in Mexico? That’s a gigantic deal.

Judge Flaum, concurred, saying:

I concur in the judgment. Unlike the majority, I have doubts that the Second Amendment grants undocumented immigrants the right to bear arms, as my read of District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), does not suggest such an expansive interpretation. But because we need not make that determination in reaching our result in this matter, I would follow the Tenth Circuit’s prudential approach and reserve resolution of this challenging constitutional question for a case that compels addressing it. See United States v. Huitron-Guizar, 678 F.3d 1164, 1169–70 (10th Cir. 2012)
id. at 18

I don’t understand why Carbajal-Flores would cite to the concurring opinion, it doesn’t feel as strong as what Judge Wood wrote. Regardless, in Meza-Rodriguez the Seventh Circuit found that illegal aliens are part of “The People”.

What did Heller actually say?

What is more, in all six other provisions of the Constitution that mention “the people,” the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset. As we said in United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U. S. 259, 265 (1990):

“ ‘[T]he people’ seems to have been a term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution. … [Its uses] suggest[t] that ‘the people’ protected by the Fourth Amendment, and by the First and Second Amendments, and to whom rights and powers are reserved in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, refers to a class of persons who are part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community.
District of Columbia v. Heller, 467 U.S. 837, 580 (2008)

The Seventh Circuit got it right in Meza-Rodriguez when they found that he was a person[s] who [is] part of a national community or who have otherwise developed sufficient connection with this country to be considered part of that community.id.. He was smuggled into the US by his parents when he was less than 5 years of age. He had been a part of the community for an extend period of time.

I do not know enough about him to know if he was a “good guy” or a “bad guy”. Regardless, he met the criteria.

To be clear, in my opinion, Meza-Rodriguez was a member of the community and part of The People. He was also an illegal alien that needed to be deported.

On the other hand, Carbajal-Flores does not meet that criteria. He was a bad person, doing bad things, got caught doing it, was deported and should stay deported.

The state argued that he was not part of The People because he was not “law-abiding”. This is a losing argument. It should be a losing argument every time.

I don’t lose my Fifth Amendment protected rights because I did something considered “unlawful.” Nor do I lose my Fourth Amendment protected rights to be secure in my person and papers, just because the state says I am not “law-abiding”.

In 2022, Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman found that Carbajal-Flores was not part of “The People” and thus was not protected under the plain text of the Second Amendment. Carbajal-Flores filed a motion for reconsideration. This time, Judge Coleman found that he was a member of The People and entitled to Second Amendment Protections.

Having found that the plain text was implicated, the state bore the burden of proof to prove that there were regulations from the founding era banning the possession of arms to “non-citizens”.

The state failed. Judge Coleman found The noncitizen possession statute, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(5), violates the Second Amendment as applied to Carbajal-Flores. Thus, the Court grants Carbajal-Flores’ motion to dismissUnited State of America v. Heriberto Carbajal-Flores, No. 20-cr-00613, slip op. at 7 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 8, 2024)

Of note, this is an “as applied” finding. It does not extend to any other illegal alien. It only applies to Carbajal-Flores. The order can be cited in other cases but is not binding on any other court, nor does it affect §922(g).

Whether Judge Coleman was playing games, she was just about locked into this finding. As an inferior court to the Seventh, she should be following their rules, no matter how bad.

Nothing in this case screams that it is a violation of Heller or Seventh Circuit case law.

As an absolutist regarding the Constitution, I have to say anything that chips away at §922 or the NFA is a positive outcome.

So it stands like this, to me:

18 U.S.C. §922 is unconstitutional. Being an illegal alien is grounds for deportation.

Bibliography

Unlawful Acts, 18 U.S.C. (U.S. 1968)
United States v. Carbajal-Flores, No. 20-cr-00613 (N.D. Ill. Dec. 19, 2022)
Staples V. United States, 128 L. Ed. 2d 608 (1994)
District of Columbia v. Heller, 467 U.S. 837 (2008)
United States V. Mariano a. Meza-Rodriguez, 798 F.3d 664 (7th Cir. 2015)
Caetano v. Massachusetts, 136 S. Ct. 1027 (2016)
New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. V. Bruen, 142 S.Ct. 2111 (U.S. 2022)
United State of America v. Heriberto Carbajal-Flores, No. 20-cr-00613 (N.D. Ill. Mar. 8, 2024)