Miguel’s post reminded me of this from the recent internet.
https://twitter.com/moa_wearemoa/status/1371924895014268932
I’ve never seen a Glock do this before but it’s not out of the range of possibilities.
Apparently it wasn’t a Glock that did this. The rest of the point still stands because regardless of what sort of gun failed catastrophically like this, a guy still has a striker assembly sticking out of his eyeball.
Eyewear is critical we all know that.
I will go step further and say that it needs to be safety rated eyewear. I see a lot of people at the range in regular sun glasses or their prescription glasses. Those offer little to no protection.
Z87.1 is the minimum acceptable ANSI rating.
There is a Mil Spec MIL-PRF-32432 that is for ballistic fragmentation that is rated at higher velocity particles.
Z87.1 is a steel ball at 150 fps. fps. MIL-PRF-32432 is a 0.15 inch steel cylinder at 650 fps.
There are quite a number of reasonably priced ballistic rated glasses out there.
I get mine here. I get no kick backs from this place. They are a small, veteran owned business and sell at a very reasonable price.
You only have one set of eyes. Glasses are cheap. Learning to read braille will cost a lot more.
Wasn’t a Glock. Another post showed the full gun (it went high order) and it looked like an EAA Girsan MC28.
https://eaacorp.com/product/girsan-mc28-sa/
And, yes, good eye pro is a mandatory. Eye pro, ear pro, gloves, and boots are places I never will cheap out on no matter how good of a “deal” something seems to be.
That was NOT a Glock!
The backplate adds no structural integrity to the Glock-action.
It’s a Sarsimilaz SAR 9, a turkish pistol. – EDIT: Nope, it’s a Girsan pistol, they look similar.
The pictures I referred to had also the wrong caption 😀
There are pictures floating around that show the pistol.
Also – it’s absolutely unlikely that a Glock does that, as it is designed differently.
Re eyewear, I agree.
The big problem I have with getting the mil-spec eyewear is this: I have a very strong prescription, so it’s hard / impossible to get custom lenses as part of safety glasses; and it’s also hard to find good safety glasses that fit well over my regular glasses. For instance, on the link you included, a quick glance showed none that would likely work over what I have to wear in order to see.
If anyone has a suggestion of what to look at, please do let me know.
Hi, Boris. Take a look at Gargoyles – they have an option to nest a set of prescription lenses inside of a set of the Classic sunglasses/safety glasses.
@It’s Just Boris:
I concur with Dan below. Gargoyles can be had with a pince-nez sort of lens carrier that mount on the nose piece. I used those as eye protection when I worked in the OR because of that feature. (We almost never used artillery at work.)
I called the link (Safetyglasses) and found milspec eye pro to my liking. Definitely not cheap but as pointed out important. The guy I spoke with was helpful and found good discounts for my transaction.
Soooo, I went to my local eye doctor with the in house glasses shop. I said to the dude.
I need this prescription for safety glasses for shooting. He had a half dozen cheap frames for the local factory workers and some slightly more expensive versions for others. I had “shooting glasses” five days later that were safety glasses and if I had wanted, I could have gotten the mil-spec version.
For J.Kb., my regular glasses are not “safety” glasses as they do not have the wrap around shielding, but the lenses are the same as what would go into safety glasses. I decided a long time ago that my everyday glasses might as well have a bit of protection in them.
So just because they look like regular glasses, they might not be.
Regardless, eyes and ears people. If you are shooting, were your eye and ear protection.
*grins* Had a funny happen the last time I went to the range with my wife. I told her to take daughters range bag, she took the ear pro out and left them at home. When we got to the range and I’m putting on my ear protection. I’ve just gotten my ear plugs in and I reach for my muffs and she’s snatched them. I had to send her to rent a pair of ear protection. She just assumed that because I had ear plugs in I wouldn’t want/need the muffs.
Family always uses plugs + muffs when at the range.
I’ve spent enough time in engineering and on factory floors in companies that have vision coverage that pays for an annual pair of prescription safety glasses to know those are available.
I am also sure that the newbie on the range in designer frame glasses or the Walmart checkout line Panama Jack sun glasses are not sporting ANSI rated lenses.
The other day I was at the range and having finished a mag I dropped the mag, checked that it was indeed empty and put the Rifle down on it’s butt stock, leaning against the booth wall.
I knew it was empty, but the RO came over and asked me “Please make sure your rifle is pointing in a safe direction.” I was absolutely confused. He finally said, “Pointing up is not safe.” So I ended up with the rifle balanced on the narrow and crowded bench top.
The RO didn’t know me, made a reasonable observation that the rifle *could* be loaded and they didn’t want a round going through the roof.
I read what you wrote and heard “But lots of people I know that wear glasses have safety lenses in them. Don’t judge them as dumb asses.” When I should have read “I see dumb asses at the range wearing regular glasses so I rightfully assume that dumb ass is doing dumb assery.”
Sorry for questioning your powers of knowing who is a dumb ass at the range. They are normally easy to spot. And in the same way, we trust the dude that acts in a professional way of being professional in his gear as well.
Simple miscommunication.
Regular readers of a gun blog are probably more up to snuff on proper gun related PPE.
My ire with them is when gun guy with proper gear brings GF or friend to the range with regular glasses and let’s them shoot.
I worked at an FFL. In one half of the facility up was safe because down was a solid concrete floor that could cause ricochet. If you went across the hall it switched to down was safe because up was the second story where HR was located and down was a raised floor system into a concrete slab.
Re proper gear for guests, I had a simple rule as a motorcyclist: any passenger I carry is going to be at least as well protected as I am. That means full face helmet, good jacket, gloves, boots, etc.
Same rule for guests at the range.
It used to be, when I was a kid, that spectacles had lenses made of glass unless you explicitly asked for plastic. Those could be a problem.
What are safety glasses made of, and how does that compare to conventional eye glasses nowadays? I know polycarbonate (“lexan”) is now an option for regular glasses, but it isn’t the default I think.
BTW, that link doesn’t work, it needs “.html” (not “.htm”) at the end. And the website is one of those misdesigned ones that only works with some browsers; in Safari it displays a blank screen.
Safetyglassesusa.com
In the pull-down menu, under safety glasses you can select ballistic glasses. They all meet the mil spec.
I like the Edge Eyewear Dragonfire. They fit me well and are reasonably priced.
Wiley-X are probably the most famous but are expensive.
I think I will show my wife these pics. She’s given me crap for paying extra for my glasses a couple of times.
They make clip-on side protectors to get complete coverage with normal glasses too!
I went with https://www.esseyepro.com for my prescription safety glass. Very happy with them.
Sawfly: https://www.revisionmilitary.com Literally the go to Mil-Spec shooters glasses As in “issued EyePro”
I’ve worn them with the inserts for vision issues (I’m blind as fuck) and they’re working as advertised
True Story… Marine Gunner in the turret of a M1114 took a hit from a home-made IED… mostly glass and bullshit shrapnel… dude lost his nose and ears and had a shit-ton of facial damage… think “bucket of crystal blown up in yer face point blank”… They rebuilt his nose and ears, but literally, his eyes, wearing the Sawfly glasses? Shit was MADLY embedded with shrapnel, none of which penetrated. The glasses themselves? Looked like a shotgun blast of birdshot war embedded… Just my 2 cents YMMV Dude is now up and operational, and no, no $$ for the plug