President Biden released his executive order on guns.
He decided to make pistol braces NFA.
So fuck you Donald Trump for your EO turning bump stocks into NFA and setting preceded on this.
I said at the time this would happen and it did.
Now that a lot of gun owners are newly minted felons in violation of the NFA and the head of the ATF is a guy who helped cover for the ATF burning children alive, we’re all fucked now.
The ATF is going to burn our kids and shoot our dogs over a piece of plastic that until yesterday was completely legal to own.
Part of their plan…
Trump’s bump stock ban is being challenged in court, and so far the courts are seeing reason; a bump stock does not fit the specific wording in the NFA’s definition of “machine gun”, and so it is NOT a machine gun and cannot be regulated as such.
I imagine stabilizing braces and “ghost guns” will be the same, but not until some poor saps have all their guns confiscated (which they’ll never get back) and spend a few years in federal prison (which they’ll also never get back) waiting for the slow wheels of justice to grind away.
I don’t know about y’all, but I’m not willing to be one of them.
Chill yall, as the quote said- its not time to be standing on yer lawn screaming and waving yer rifle. They are losing ground fast…
How exactly is this in anyway enforceable? Does anyone have a link to the EO? Would be curious to see how it changes the existing regulations.
The EO doesn’t ban braces.
The EO instructs the ATF to come up with a rule that bans braces within 60 days.
Then there will be a comment period.
Then it will become a regulation.
Then someone will have to have standing to sue the ATF (in the case of bumpstocks, it was two bumpstock owners and a third person that “would have” purchased one if not for the rule)
Then there will be years of federal litigation.
The Sixth will say the rule is unconstitutional
The Third will say it is constitutional
The Supreme Court will deny cert 3 years in a row
Then maybe….maybe ten years from now the Supremes will hear it and…
It’ll get upheld because braces are no longer “in common use.”
And the entire time, “gun” people will swear that braces were stupid to begin with and we shouldn’t fight for them. Just like they did with bumpstocks.
So, pResident Burden has no idea how to get rid of braces, but thinks the gun experts will be smart enough to find a way to get them under the NFA. I am going to have to see that.
All they have to do is reclassify them by rule as stocks. It’s literally that simple. Its probably a 20 word rule.
Probably right on that.
However, what constitutes a “stock?” Personally, I always though the arm brace was not different in any way from a stock, but if the ATF says so, who am I to argue?
I am not as familiar with the ATF regs as I should be. But, if a stock is not well defined, the changes to the regs will be successfully challenged.
Of course, as you note elsewhere, challenging it may take years, and cost more than the average person wants to spend.
December enforcement action on “Honey Badger” braces was a test run.
As early as 2015 I predicted this, so TOLD YOU SO.
Until SIG poured money and lawyers at it, adding anything to your pistol that could be used as a stock (regardless of intent) made your pistol an SBR.
Now the ATF is going to reverse a ruling? Color me shocked!
I know everyone who bought a braced pistol is upset, but you should not have been surprised that they eventually got around to making your gun an SBR again.
The change that needs made is to the laws. Either by getting the Supreme Court to rule this is all the bullshit it is, or to get Congress to change the black-letter definitions in the law.
As long as it’s subject to ATF Ouija determinations we’re going to keep getting “sudden felony”.
We’re not going to win the regulatory comment war no matter how sternly we word our objections. They don’t bother to read them, so can’t be affected by the content.
I’m still waiting on my, required by law, written response to my comments on several of these rule-making comment periods. Rules which have been implemented which aren’t supposed to be before everyone has their written response.
Yes, the government, especially but not exclusively when controlled by Democrats, tramples all over the Constitution. No surprise, it’s been doing that for over 200 years.
There’s a simple answer for the ATF, one Congress could implement: set its authorized budget to zero. That would get them all fired, which is what the Constitution requires to happen.
Strictly speaking not true. There were plenty of people with pre 2015 ATF letters saying things like cane tips etc were ok.
You should be a boat sales man as much as you cry. Guess you missed the ruling earlier in the week kiling the bump stock ban.
That’s only in the 6th circuit, only a panel (which is likely to be reversed in a full review), and it took 3 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to get there.
Perhaps this will finally rally the gun community to repeal the NFA.
Roger. To the weasels posting: Get off it. This is a nothingburger/nothingbeverage. Keep screaming at clouds in continued OFWG manner. If you think it’s “something” then fight it. Don’t be a little bitch. Bloomberg appreciates your compliance.
Just about every EO should in injuncted in 10 seconds because they stretch the bounds of presidential power. This should be no different as it is effectively doing Congresses job.