Itamar Ben-Gvir is the Minister of National Security of Israel. He posted the following in X 2 days ago.

  1. Granted that most if not all Israelis have served in the Military, but that also means if you are just a plain vanilla citizen, you are not allowed to defend yourself and yours… (We are the only ones, etc).
  2. Dear 4,000 Subjects, ye shall be granted the privilege (probably temporary) to obtain means of self-defense that you could not do before without encumbering you with doing all paperwork again.
  3. I am guessing you have the privilege of ownership of the item you paid for only if you have proved to your master you took the mandated instruction.
  4. Wait a fucking minute: I can only have a gun if I train, but I am only allowed to have 50 rounds on normal days? And you think you are magnanimous in allowing me 100 rounds when the fuckers attacking Israel carry twice as much and they are traveling in packs?

I did not know it was this bad.

I will say it again: Israel needs to develop a Roof Korean culture.


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By Miguel.GFZ

Semi-retired like Vito Corleone before the heart attack. Consiglieri to J.Kb and AWA. I lived in a Gun Control Paradise: It sucked and got people killed. I do believe that Freedom scares the political elites.

38 thoughts on “Israel removes Gun Control for cizizens….not exactly.”
  1. What the actual … ? Rabid animals are kidnapping, raping, murdering, and desecrating dead bodies then parading said bodies in public and Schlomo Six-Pack is only rationed 100 rounds? It’s bad enough the average Israeli is dealing with their version of Pearl Harbor but add insult to injury they can’t properly defend themselves or country.

    What, did Sec. Blinken write their gun laws?

  2. Fellow member rd posted in other thread what I believe is the reason for Israel’s gun and self-defense laws,
    “Israel will never have a widespread gun culture like the US. It is a multi-Ethnic, multi religious nation, majority Jewish, but with a substantial Arab Israeli Citizen minority. Israeli Arabs in the Knesset are a significant minority bloc.

    How could/would they freely arm only their Jewish citizens and not the Arabs, Christians, Druze, and even their own Militant Jewish fanatics? They cannot unless they wish to be called Apartheid racists and worse by the “civilized” antisemites in Europe and the rest of the world.”

    1. That doesn’t make any sense. The US is also multi-ethnic and multi-religious. And while in both countries some support terrorism, that doesn’t mean it makes any sense to disarm the law abiding majority.

      The more likely answer is centuries of victim disarmament tradition. For a very long time in parts of Europe a Jew owning a weapon was subject to the death penalty. And of course socialism has been rampant, which also demanded victim disarmament. Overcoming those legacies is what Israel needs, not fear of minorities.

      1. gpkoning, I hear where you are coming from, but as I posted in the other thread we are all posting in, consider the size of Israel being equal to NJ, and the fact that the minority here in question professes freely that they would kill Jews IF they could. The volatility rate is much higher than anywhere in the USA. The Islamists in the USA have a far greater number of pro-Jewish people living here than in Israel. Israel is equal to a Power Keg, ready to blow……it’s impressive that it’s been kept from blowing to kingdom come before this. Gun laws are necessary. (The article I posted was to answer some of the commenter’s disbelief in the type of gun laws Israel had, and nothing more—-the author gets everything else wrong).

  3. Without context, I would have guessed that list of relaxed restrictions came from LA or DC.

  4. Governments are always more afraid of their own citizens than they are of invaders. An armed people can’t be subjugated, and tyrants hate that.

  5. The main problem which the IDF must resolve in our invasion and conquest of Hamas regime change strategy, the huge civilian populations of Gaza.
    The IDF, it seems to me, should island hop, much like America did in the Pacific War against Japan. Israel needs to organize a sealed off trench warfare, something akin to WWI battle tactics. Only in the case of Gaza, Israel must encircle and isolate designated areas to harvest Gaza civilian populations. Israel must feed and protect these sealed-off “captured” Gaza prisoner of war zones.

    Such a strategic policy conducted toward Gazan civilian populations serves to separate armed hostile terrorists from unarmed passive Gazans. Captured males, capable of serving as soldiers separated from populations of women with children and the old. Segregating civilian from military capable populations, clearly the first step in the long regime change war confronting the Jewish state in the days and weeks ahead.

    Jerusalem emphatically must reject foreign aid or intervention in this local border conflict. The horror of the international involvement in the Russian/Ukraine war a clear flag of warning. Israel outright rejects European involvement or any foreign intervention what so ever. This Gaza regime change war, pits Israel’s fight against the multiple Arab factions in Gaza, E. Jerusalem, and Samaria. Israel must reject any and all foreign international aid or power plays to dominate Israeli and Gazan interstate self-determination.

    Repatriating dhimmi Arab refugee populations to Gaza. Permitting the Gazan City-State to give citizenship to these dhimmi Arab refugee populations the Primary objective of regime change strategies in Gaza. Integrating the Independent nation of Gaza into the Arab community of the Middle East a key foreign policy objective of the Jewish state during this Gaza/Israel war.

    Land for peace. Twice Israel has returned the Sinai back to Egypt in the name of land for peace. The patriotization of dhimmi Arab refugees from E. Jerusalem, Samaria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria to Gazan national self-determination and Independence, a prime regime change strategy of the Jewish state in this Gaza/Israel war. Gaza, Israel and Egypt can work together to expand the borders of Gaza into the Sinai to accommodate dhimmi Arabs who move to Gaza and cease existing as despised refugee populations, a people without a country of their own.

  6. The Israeli people and their government have had intimate knowledge of the threats facing them for their entire existence as a sovereign state. And that gov’t is STILL more worried about it’s subjects being armed than it is about them being defenseless, and those subjects, for the most part, are ENTIRELY ok with that.

    As far as I’m concerned, that alone says everything anyone needs to know about how worthy that nation is of being supported (and that’s BEFORE you account for the blatant anti-Christian bigotry).

  7. Remembering Operation Cast Lead, Olmert FUBAR. That utterly incompetent Brandan Prime Minister failed to achieve the total surrender of Hamas to Israel. An invasion of Gaza must never duplicate that utterly failed attempt to up-root Hamas. The Ventriloquist puppet UN made vile accusations of war-crimes against the IDF. A repetition of foreign intervention which prevented a Hamas total and complete surrender to Israel, Bibi must avoid at all costs. The Cast Lead Olmert blunder: witnessed the entrance of the Obozo the Clown enemy, to seize the Office of President of the United States. That incompetent Brandan fool passed UN Resolution 2334 prior to vacating POTUS. To achieve the unconditional surrender of Hamas, the Bibi government must negate the influence of both the EU and UN.

  8. The current Gaza/Hamas War. Simply not enough for the IDF to up-root Hamas from Gaza. Nature does not tolerate a vacuum. The disaster of the American foreign policy in both Iraq and Libya. Those regime change American wars, resulted in the most bitter Civil Wars in those countries of Iraq and Libya.

    Israel made peace with Arafat and the PLO. But the 2006 elections in Gaza established Hamas as the government! If the IDF uproots Hamas from Gaza, then it too must plant the Arab populations of E. Jerusalem and Samaria into Gaza. This dhimmi curse of refugee Arabs requires resolution. Israel stands as the only country to deed Gaza land for the establishment of a PA State.

    Arafat said the PLO served as the sole and only representative of the Palestinian People. Israel has an obligation to both our People and the Arab People to ensure that once the IDF uproots Hamas from Gaza, that the PA rules the Gaza City-state.

    Victors of Wars assume the powers of determining the borders of other nation-states. The victory of the IDF in Gaza results in a radical change in the balance of power in the Middle East. Had Av Shalom replaced David as king, this would have definitely changed the balance of power in that ancient region.

    The Jewish concept of: ‘Moshiach house of David’ would have radically changed the opinions held by all later generations.

  9. The Hamas Defenses that the IDF must overcome. Hamas embraces the strategy of Peoples’ War developed by Ho Chi Minh’s A-symetric war which defeated the United States military superiority in Vietnam. This military strategy prioritizes anti-war social conflict opposition within the imperialist country, like Hanoi Jane Fonda or the Kent State shooting, which killed four students and wounded 9 others protesting against Vietnam. Over actual head-to-head military conflict.

    A-symetric warfare recognizes that the enemy enjoys vast military superiority. The Vietcong militarily lost the battle known as the Tet Offensive. But Walter Cronkite declared on National Television that America had lost the war. This announcement compares to the heads of the 10 spies sent to Canaan declaring that Giants ruled the land and the Israelites compared to grasshoppers. Cronkite melted the hearts of the American people to continue fighting that war.

    The tactics of trench warfare defines WWI. Israeli complete air superiority forced Hamas to dig deep tunnels. Israel cannot sustain a huge blood bath, like the current Russian/Ukraine trench warfare has produced. This Gaza War in no way compares to the huge tank battles which defined the Sinai and Golan Fronts during the Yom Kippur October War of ’73. This war fought street by street compares to Stalingrad. The defeat of the Nazis at Stalingrad obliterated Germany’s ability to project Offensive Warfare thereafter. The winter offensive known as “the Battle of the Bulge” collapsed as fast as it started; Germany had already exhausted its military depth to conduct war.

  10. A solution to the Hamas Gaza Tunnel defence

    Carbon monoxide poisoning occurs when carbon monoxide builds up in the blood. When too much carbon monoxide is in the air, the body replaces the oxygen in the red blood cells with carbon monoxide. This can lead to serious tissue damage, or even death.

    Carbon monoxide is gas that has no odor, taste or color. Burning fuels, including gas, wood, propane or charcoal, make carbon monoxide. Appliances and engines that aren’t well vented can cause the gas to build up to dangerous levels. A tightly enclosed space makes the buildup worse.

    Anyone exposed to carbon monoxide needs to get into fresh air and seek medical care right away.

  11. What defines the goal of the current war in Gaza?

    The over 200 kidnapped captives a clear priority. However, Israel fights a regime change war. The total unconditional surrender of Hamas defines the Will of the People of Israel to achieve justice for the slaughter of some 1400 Israelis on October 7th. Just that simple.

    1. mosckerr I believe your correct but would add that Israel also has a second objective, which is to send a message to the nation they know was behind this from the start, which is Iran. And with Turkey’s latest threat to attack Israel if they don’t end the war with Hamas, by joining with Iran and escalate the war, it seems my suspicions are correct. Fact in that Netanyahu responded saying Turkey and Iran will meet the same fate as Hamas if they follow through on their threat, it looks more and more as if this is going to escalate into an all-out regional and then global war. Let’s hope Turkey is just posturing.

      1. Israel pursues Justice for the 1400 murdered as our first priority in this war. Iran does not share a common border with Israel. Israel does not seek to internationalize the conflict like the Russian/Ukraine abomination. The Turks need to remove their troops which currently occupy both Syria and Cyprus. Their calls for justice ring as hollow as a bell.

        1. I agree Mosckerr, my point was there is a connection between Hamas and Iran and Turkey, who all desire to end the existence of Israel. What do you make of the recent threat just two days ago coming from the leader of Turkey and the intelligence asserting that Iran is directly involved in the actions of Hamas against Israel?

          1. Israel will deal with those countries at a later time. First the total unconditional surrender of Hamas. Neither Turkey nor Iran share a common border with Israel. These countries I seriously doubt prepared to fight a Vietcong like distant war.

              1. To my People Israel. Daily for years, Jews have witnessed the filth of antisemitism raise its ugly head. We fight a Regime Change War to permanently remove Hamas as the Ruling Government of the Gaza Palestinian State.

                The state: that the vision of Prime Minister Sharon established in 2005. Today our nation conducts our national strategic interests as a ‘great nation’; we fight a regime change war to remove Hamas as the government of the Israeli established Gaza Palestinian State.

                Antisemites scream and fight & denounce that Israel should transform our tiny nation of the Middle East unto a ‘great power’ in the community of World nation states. This war compares to a Bar Mitzva celebration of joy.

      2. No. Israel has a laser focus. To fight and win this war against Hamas. Let the chips fall where they will. Israel shall deal with the consequences of thoses splintered chips after we first cut down the Hamas tree.

  12. To my People Israel. Daily for years, Jews have witnessed the filth of antisemitism raise its ugly head. We fight a Regime Change War to permanently remove Hamas as the Ruling Government of the Gaza Palestinian State.

    Antisemites scream and fight & denounce that Israel should transform our tiny nation of the Middle East unto a ‘great power’ in the community of World nation states. This war compares to a Bar Mitzva celebration of joy.

    Hundreds storm Russian airport to protest Israel flight. Hundreds of people have stormed into the main airport in Russia’s Dagestan region and onto the landing field to protest the arrival of an airliner from Tel Aviv, Israel and Russian news agencies reported.

    Authorities closed the airport in Makhachkala, the capital of the predominantly Muslim region, and police converged on the facility. Russian news reports said people in the crowd were shouting anti-Semitic slogans and tried to storm the airliner belonging to Russian carrier Red Wings.

    Video on social media showed some in the crowd on the landing field waving Palestinian flags, protesters attempting to overturn a police car and others checking the passports of passengers who had arrived in Makhachkala.

    The Ministry of Internal Affairs for Russia’s North Caucasian Federal District, where Dagestan is located, stated that CCTV footage would be used to establish the identities of those who stormed the airport, and that those involved would be brought to justice.

    Dagestan Governor Sergei Melikov was more assertive in his criticism of the protesters, and promised consequences for anyone who took part in the storming of the airport. “The actions of those who gathered at the Makhachkala airport today are a gross violation of the law!… what happened at our airport is outrageous and should receive an appropriate assessment from law enforcement agencies! And this will definitely be done!” he wrote on Telegram.

  13. This noise: ‘Hitler was duly elected!’ farted by Ms.Hillary: denounces the: Trump ’24 win campaign … It compares to the Peace for Palestinians, demonstrations by assimilated America Jues against the Oct 7th War.

    Proof that many insane human beings, more full of shit, than sane folk. Putz these “Jues” in prisons together with captured stinking Hamas Arabs!

  14. Israel shows alleged Hamas ‘armory’ under children’s hospital in Gaza. Local health officials dismiss the physical evidence.

    Israel shows alleged Hamas ‘armory’ under children’s hospital in Gaza. Local health officials dismiss the claims as well as the Oct 7th pogrom.| Newsdesk International (

    MKs from a wide spectrum of the Knesset call for mass transfer of Palestinians (

    Israel defeated Hamas, the IDF slaughter Dune Coons. Sabras, a prickly cactus that has popped the hot air of Palestinian-State dhimmi stateless refugee propaganda lies.

    Post WWII mass population transfer of Germans from Czech Republic and Poland, to prevent the repetition of the claim that Germany demands the return of stolen “occupied territory” in Czech and Poland. Impose this post October 7th massacre of 1400 Israelis on the last day of the Chag. Make a mass population transfer of PA dhimmi Arab refugee populations in E. Jerusalem and Samaria to Gaza.

  15. A Wee-Bit Irish Pro-Israel War-Time BBC-like Propaganda

    All goes well in this war by which Israel seeks the total unconditional surrender of Hamas. Followed up by a mass population transfer of 5th column Arabs in E. Jerusalem and Samaria to Gaza. From the River to the Sea, Israelis live Arab free.

  16. Torah Moshiach – the Baali T’shuva. The classic Times inspired oriented commandment Kre’a Shma. T’shuva of Moshiach – assisting the Alzheimer’s victim to maintain the human dignity of an elder citizen.

    Shrek 2 – i need a hero Jennifer Saunders – YouTube
    Israelis face hard and difficult times. Goyim all around us scream quit! Make a cease fire!! But the t’shuva of Israel, WE shall not quit till WE achieve the total unconditional surrender of Hamas and its allies. Just that simple.

    Shrek 2 (2004) – I Need a Hero Scene (7/10) | Movieclips – YouTube

  17. Oct 7th, yet assimilated & intermarried worshippers of avoda zara [kapo-Jewish-Goyim-Nazi-lovers] stand with Hamas/Islamic Jihad war criminals.

  18. Sharing how my son-in-law and myself learn Talmud together. As opposed to other family members who learn by an entirely different sh’itta\methodology of learning. Persons not fluent in Hebrew can copy/paste Hebrew words to Google Translate.
    2h ago
    The location of our בנין אב\precedent found in other Gemaras, to this point, no בנין אב — ever located at the conclusion of the sugia/sub-chapter as this Case located within בבא בתרא. Am interested to see how you “connect the dots” to form your sh’itta straight line interpretation whereby you employ it to make the critical משנה תורה/{common law} reinterpretation of the language of the Mishna. Remember your failure to observe the language of the Mishna in מנחות parallel vessels of the Mishkan contrasted by perpendicular position of the Ark of the covenant vis-a-vis to the other vessels of the Mishkan? Interpreting, based upon a sh’itta (A logical methodology. Logic based upon Order) of a Gemara sugya(sug-chapter) בנין אב(precedent), means making a משנה תורה\{common law} interpretive learning of the Mishna common law legal system.

    Statute law has no such learning discipline, which requires interpreting a halachic ruling learned in context by contrasting that halachic opinion to fit it within the language of a far greater Mishnaic authority. For this reason alone statute law halacha, as in, for example, the codification of the Shulchan Aruch — just flat out wrong. No exceptions to this rule. Rav Nemuraskii, my Rav, did not take, the above opinion, to this extreme. Statute law halacha – exceptionally easy to learn. Rav Nemuraskii instructed baali t’shuva students who had no Torah background whatsoever at all. But you and I, we both have learned the Sha’s Bavli, do not qualify as snotty nose assimilated kids, who never learned Talmud in their entire lives.

    But Rav Nemuraskii did encourage me, when I first came to him as a University educated left wing Socialist, to study these statute law codes … with a stern warning! To learn these statute halachic codes within the context of its sugya of Gemara, and then use that knowledge of that Gemara sugya to relearn the language of the Mishna of that Gemarah. [[The Universal chief flaw of the Rambam statute halachic code, his failure to bring Gemara sources for all his halachic rulings. The Tur and Shulkan Aruch duplicated this Universal error. Statute halachic codes כאילו equate Gemara halacha as equal to and on par with Mishnaic sources. This logical error which attempts to “equivocate”(כאילו) the authority of the Gemara equal to that of the Mishna, alas a very common logical falacy.]]

    This latter learning step, all the Reshonim commentaries ever written on the Talmud failed to learn the Gemara as a precedent to re-interpret the k’vanna of the language of its Mishna. But no commentary can replace the Primary source which the commentary explains. The Gemara has a commentary relationship to the Mishna. The scholarship of the Reshonim fundamentally erred in their failure to discern between Primary and Secondary sources of scholarship. The same error likewise ocurred in how the Reshonim (950CE to 1400CE) learned the T’NaCH, which tended to restrict scholarship to a טיפש פשט rather than learn the T’NaCH as mussar משנה תורה {Common mussar Law}.

    The fundamental distinction which fundamentally separates Aggadita from Halacha in the Talmud: the former addresses mussar common law precedents whereas the latter compares Halachic precedents to similar {parallel} Halachic precedents.

    Rav Nemuraskii opposed learning the Mishna based solely upon the טיפש פשט\Bird-brained, simple reading of the language of the Mishna. He drilled this contempt for טיפש פשט learning into my consciousness! The sh’itta Geh-Geh (a family member) learns, he became a Rav based upon the Shulchan Aruch. The way he perceives the Talmud, compares to the way that Xtians view the “Old Testament”!

    Xtian replacement theology has subsumed the T’NaCH. Making the T’NaCH as a secondary source vis a vis their new testament forgery, a document on par with, in my estimation, to the Czarist secret police, late 19th Century forgery known as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. My contention, that the Gospels exists as — a Roman forgery. The statute halachic codes: the Yad Chazaka, Tur, & Shulkan Aruch they have effectively replaced Talmudic common law scholarship, just as the noise new testament has replaced, in order of priority and importance, their Old Testament.

    JeZeus did not know how to make the required הבדלה {distinction} that separates and distinguishes איסר מלאכה מן איסר עבודה {skilled labor from unskilled labor}. JeZeus never kept the זמן גרמא מצוה שבת. This type of Torah commandment stands upon the יסוד יראת שמים\{foundation of mastery of a Good Name}.

    JeZeus did not know that the Torah defines אמונה\{faith} as צדק צדק תרדוף\{the pursuit of justice}. [[That common law judicial sanhedrin courtrooms which serve to fairly make restitution of damages inflicted by a Jew upon another Jew defines the Torah concept of justice.]] Muhammad too/likewise did not know how the Hebrew T’NaCH defines faith. Both this and that avoda zarah therefore focused upon faith as a personal belief system in this or that God. The Torah defines the prioritization of a personal belief in Gods, as the Av tuma avoda zarah which shatters the Torah revelation, learned when Moshe shattered the two tablets at Sinai. Herein defines the k’vaana/{intent} of the revelation of the 2nd Sinai commandment.

    1. Thanks for posting, Mosckerr. My question on this issue has always been, “how do I as one who sits in the ‘reader’s chair’ today, have access to the correct sources which will enable him to sit in the Jewish Writer’s Chair and thereby learn that writer’s meanings?”
      The hermeneutical discipline is not easily obtained for an English-only individual. What do you suggest?

  19. As General MacArthur dictated the details of the post War Government of Japan, so too Israel must dictate the Constitution/charter of the new Gaza government that shall rule Gaza and the dhimmi Arab populations removed from E. Jerusalem and Samaria to Gaza.

    The UN must leave Gaza. Jerusalem shall establish the Arab government that rules Gaza just as did the United States imposed the Japanese Constitution following the unconditional surrender of Japan to General MacArthur. The model of the post war peace established between the US & Japan shall serve as the model whereby Israel shall establish the government of Gaza.

    Just as the US forced a 14 million population transfer of German populations in the Czech Republic and Poland, Israel shall likewise impose a forced population transfer of Arab refugee populations currently residing in E. Jerusalem and all of Samaria to Gaza. Jerusalem commits to open business and trade with the new Israeli established Gaza Government and significantly invest in rebuilding the economy of defeated Gaza like as did the United States did with Japan.

  20. Israel must up-root the primitive caste/feudal culture which defines the Arab world. Israel rejects as a political fraud – the White-Wash forms of democratic elections – while a 2% elite of Arabs living within Gaza and PA territories, while 98% of the Arab common man exist as a Xtian-like serf banana republic feudal economy dominated by terrorist leaderships.

    Feudal Arab dictatorships, which defines all Arab civilizations, Hezbollah serves as a clear example of this pathetic political insanity, defines the Arab world. Israel must ensure that no Caste system functions in any Arab government administration post the Oct 7th total victory over Gaza.

  21. Dear Mr. Prime Minister arouse the אומץ Spirit of courage within your heart Sir! Oct 7th Abomination and the SA condemns Israel of genocide. The UN “court” sides with the SA, despite UNRA guilt in joining the Oct 7th Abomination! Sir, at the beginning, on Oct 7th you said Israel, in a War! Time for Israel to break off all diplomatic relations with Hamas/PA Arabs, the UN, the Red Cross double-cross, and all supporting friends of our enemies among all nations. Sir, Israel fights a war, and war like all wars hurt. Family members demand the return of our stolen hostages. But this pain our people simply must endure till we achieve the complete and total unconditional surrender of Hamas from Gaza & Samaria. Read over Shabbat in an Israeli newspaper, the demands made by Hamas! Sir this most definitely does not qualify as unconditional surrender.

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