I attended a get-together on Saturday. One of the other people there started a discussion about firearms and the Second Amendment. Since we were in an area where there were not a bunch of people, and because he was acting in good faith and with an open mind, we engaged in a discussion.
As most such discussions go, it is difficult to pin somebody down. There is a heartfelt need to “do something”.
Some of the issues that I had were his inability to accept that we already know that bad things happen when we give an inch.
A big issue for him was training. The standard, “You are ok, and he is ok, but there are idiots out there that do dumb things, they should have training.”
My response was that a training requirement leads to de facto bans. He claimed that we don’t know that they will. When I listed the states that had done this recently, that was not accepted as proof.
He drove forward with the idea that we could write a law that would be safe from that type of meddling. He invited me to propose language for that.
I went home unhappy with my performance.
Having thought about it a bit, I think my argument should be more along the lines of:
Why do you want to break the law?
Every one of the people that I have discussions with has some sort of acceptable way of working around the Second Amendment. They argue that I should “follow the law” if they pass an unconstitutional law. At the same time, they are unwilling to obey the law, themselves.
Often they want to engage in hypotheticals where they can make such a law.
One of my standard responses is, “If you would like to do that, then you need to pass an amendment. That amendment will then allow you to pass such laws.” I did use it. He’s response was, “You would oppose that?” “Absolutely, totally.”
I then explained that they are pre-existing rights. That the Second Amendment is there to protect those rights. The Second Amendment does not grant those rights.
Regardless, I’m left feeling unsatisfied with my performance. I need more practice.
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