“The Feinstein proposal has due process in it, it has the means to aggrieve your inclusion on that list.”
And what are those? Well, nobody knows because they are not to be defined by Congress but by the Attorney General at a future date…if ever.
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, such
remedial procedures and judicial review shall be subject to
procedures that may be developed by the Attorney General to
prevent the unauthorized disclosure of information.
And you can rest assured the AGwill get the procedure done fast, openly and will NEVER be abused. <coughbullshitcough>
One more thing I need to expand on. Again from the Feinstein bill:
the Attorney General may deny the
transfer of a firearm if the Attorney General determines,
based on the totality of the circumstances, that the
transferee represents a threat to public safety based on a
reasonable suspicion that the transferee is engaged, or has
been engaged, in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in
aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing material
support or resources therefor.
According to Cornell’s Legal Information Institute:
“Reasonable suspicion is a standard used in criminal procedure. It is looser than probable cause. Reasonable suspicion is sufficient to justify brief stops and detentions, but not enough to justify a full search. When determining reasonable suspicion, courts consider the events leading up to the brief stop and a decide whether these facts, viewed from the standpoint of an objectively reasonable police officer, amount to reasonable suspicion.
Courts look at the totality of the circumstances of each case to see whether the officer has a particularized and objective basis for suspecting legal wrongdoing.”
The important part in my IANAL diploma is Not Enough to Justify a Full Search. Basically, it cannot violate the Fourth Amendment, you know? The one that goes:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
So they need to ignore the Fourth to kill the Fifth and finally eliminate the Second. That is about 1/3 of the Bill of Rights they are aiming to destroy.
Do you feel warm-fuzzy yet?
“to prevent the unauthorized disclosure of information.” That’s not about ‘due process’… that’s about the AG being allowed to determine any ‘evidence’ is considered classified under national security and can’t be openly shown. All they have to do is say ‘We have evidence’ and you are presumed guilty.
Someone get Chris Murphy on the DNF list.
Murphy is not just ‘did not finish’ but DQ’ed as in disqualified for major violations. As in ‘failure to do right’.
What if being on the DNF list caused you to lose your right to a jury trial and legal representation? I mean hey, should we be giving suspected terrorists the benefit of the doubt? We already know they’ve done something wrong, right? Just lock ’em up. Don’t saddle some poor public representative with having to defend that.
Another big problem with terrorists is the recruit and incite others to commit terrorist acts. If we are going to take their second amendment rights, why stop there? Prevent them from communicating their terrorist ideology, prevent them from meeting in public, or at a mosque, church, synagogue, any meeting house, or even in a newspaper or newscasters office. Can’t have them spreading those terrorist ideologies!
While we are at it, give the state the right to station police in their houses, and to search them anytime they desire; if they are such a risk to the nation. Might as well give the state the right to question them any way they want and to lock them up indefinitely without trial. Heck if they are such a danger that they do not have any Second Amendment Rights, why not allow the state to just torture them until they confess?
Let’s Do It Right! Do not stop at the Second Amendment. Let’s throw out the entire Bill of Rights!
Do it!!!
Do it for the Children!!! (TM)
This one is going south in a BIG hurry… 4th, 5th, 2nd, and might as well take the 1st too, to shut up those that try to publicise what is going on… sigh
It has the feeling of a situation that is truly spinning out of control. It’s amazing, politicians are dropping all pretenses of obeying their oaths of office, of upholding the constitution, and are going full totalitarian. It’s incredibly alarming. I always thought it would play out like a slow wade into a pool and not a plunge into the deep end. What’s even worse is that large number of Americans either don’t care or are in favor of what is happening.
They think they have the advantage. It’s a push, just like after Newtown.
And just like after Newtown, they forget how many Americans still have guns, and how badly trying to take those guns always turns out. If the Democrat party seriously tries to pull this off, then the November election this year won’t be Trump vs. Hillary, it’ll be Trump vs. Gary Johnson.
And that? I’d be OK with that.
Protip: The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor because they (foolishly) didn’t fear our navy.
The Japanese never invaded the US because they *did* fear our citizens.
Democrat politicians might want to take note: Japan was more afraid of your everyday American citizens than it was of the military that almost wiped it out.