This was an interesting conversation.
-Tango Pappa (Not the real name)
GH Hill I’d need to see some actual data on that, not just speculation. Pelvic girdle shots already don’t have an anatomical justification to prioritize them over the CNS targets, be they 10mm or other.
-GH Hill (AKA Mad Ogre)
Trevor Putnam http://madogre.com/?page_id=1172
Medically Reviewed and US Army Approved.
GH Hill I scrolled through it, didn’t see anything that indicated testing of pistol bullets on the human pelvis caused shattering (link below indicates that’s not the case), or that shattered pelvic bones resulted in a faster or more definitive cessesation of hostilies than a CNS hit.
Trevor Putnam No one is saying a pelvic hit is a faster incapacitation than CNS. Don’t be thick.
GH Hill then I guess I’m confused as to why anyone would prioritize it as a target. A pelvis with a centimeter hole in it isn’t a shattered pelvis, and isn’t a fight stopper, even if it was.
So you volunteer to take a shot in the crotch to prove your point?
Miggy Gonzalez it’s a non-question, no one ever volunteers to take a shot anywhere, to prove their point.
The real question is, when faced with someone who means to do you lethal harm as quickly as possible, will you aim for a CNS hit to stop the fight, or the pelvis, to perpetuate a meme about shooting people in the dick? Because all the research points to the first one.
Miggy Gonzalez Evidently, Trevor here just can’t contemplate someone wearing Body Armor, and that a pelvic point of aim is a lot easier than a headshot.
I am going to shoot at whatever is available to cause pain and lots of bleeding. You yourself admitted that no one volunteers to take a shot and it seems silly to wait to obtain a head shot because you have some sort of dogma about the perfect placement. That only occurs if your opponent is polite and dumb enough to give you a chance.
I shan’t gamble on the kindness of those trying to inflict me harm.
Miggy Gonzalez That dude is being purposefully argumentative. I blocked him.
This came about after I posted a pic of the Dick Shooters patch. In the middle of the argument, I posted Clint Smith’s now famous video:
Center Mass is defined at the middle of whatever is available to put rounds on the offending party. That is what you aim for because it is available and in real life, with more holes, hypovolemic shock comes faster if the coconut above the head is not easily available, or the chest is covered in protective crap. And let’s not forget pain as a behavioral modificatory.
By the way, the guy dropped me as FB friend. Probably my position was pure heresy.