Remember everything I have been saying for the last 48 hours about the people of influence not giving a single solitary shit about actually trying to prevent the next mass shooter, only focusing on driving the partisan outrage that gets them clicks, contributions, and ad revenue?

Well, it’s like they just can’t help but prove me right.

There is a lot to be concerned about when it comes to the Constitutionality of Red Flag laws.  I am an ardent defender of the right to keep and bear arms, I think my history with this blog shows that.

At the same time, after Parkland, El Paso, and Daytona, it might be a good idea to have some sort of program in place where a person can call up and tell the police “hey, this guy I know has a list of all the women he wants to rape and guys he wants to kill, can you come and make sure he’s not going to go psycho and shoot up a movie theater or something?”

Whatever protections are put in place to make sure that peoples’ due process rights are not violated is a subject of much debate.

But I supremely believe that most people want to keep guns out of the hands of people like Nikolas Cruz before they go on their massacre.

Then I see some bullshit like the stuff David Frum put on Twitter and I realize that the idea of any sort of mass shooting prevention is dead in the water.


Yeah, really.

I get that sort of open carry is jackass behavior.  It’s legal in a lot of places, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to do it.  And this comes from someone who lives in an open carry state and occasionally open carries himself.

But… are these red flag worthy?  No, no they are not.

If you think these were the worst examples, no, Frum gets even dumber.

This is what was quoted:

That doesn’t seem like woman-hatred to me at all.  It’s a fairly reasonable argument.  But Frum doesn’t like being argued against, so it’s easier to claim that this guy is a dangerous woman-hater and red flag him.

If you go into the comments on any one of these Tweets, you’ll see quite a number of people also stating that if they see anybody with a gun (open or concealed) they will red flag that person.

These people don’t want red flag laws to prevent mass shooters.  They just want to abuse them to harass law-abiding gun owners with the weight of the law.

Not just does this put people’s rights at risk, it also puts the lives of gun owners and law enforcement at risk.

I want to support some sort of mass shooter prevention law, but I’m not going to back anything that anti-gunners are gleeful to abuse to get me arrested and stripped of my rights because of my CCW pistol.

When you are more excited about how to use a law to intimidate law-abiding gun owners than you are about a law being able to stop an actual threat, you are part of the problem.

Their open desire to abuse this law for partisan gain instead of saving lives is why we can’t even begin to discuss doing something helpful.

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9 thoughts on “This is why we can’t have any protection against mass shooters”
  1. This post is spot on. The guy is literally salivating over the idea of being able to “red flag” people who he disagrees with.

    EDIT: I looked this guy up, he’s Canadian. It all makes sense now.

  2. Hell, I had people who live in my state say that if they saw someone open carrying that they would immediately call the police and they hoped the police would show up and shoot and kill the open carrier.

    They were not joking at all. They knew the behavior is perfectly lawful, yet still stated their desire to try and get the authorities to kill the open carrier. Now, imagine how those people will abuse “Red Flag Laws”

  3. I wonder if David Frum would have taken offense if “motownjohn” had pointed out that, “Owning a gun no more makes one a murderer than being a man makes one a rapist. One might possess the gear to do it but there is more to it than that.” (Which is how I typically see that comparison stated.)

    Then again, it wouldn’t surprise me if David Frum assumes all men ARE rapists until proven otherwise (other than himself, of course), and doubly so for EEEEE-ville Conservative Men.

  4. The biggest reason that I oppose red flag laws is not the theory, but the execution. I picture red flag laws working like Facebook bans: There will be no real criteria that you can point to that will get you flagged, but you will find out when the police knock on the door to take your guns. Then you will have to hire an attorney and pay several thousand dollars to get your guns back. Meanwhile, is has cost the accuser nothing.

    One only needs to look at how domestic violence accusations work.

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