I’ve been struggling with the opinion of the First Circuit court in —Ocean State Tactical, LLC v. State of Rhode Island, No. 23-1072 (1st Cir.). I know that it is a twisted opinion, attempting to keep as many abuses of our rights in place for the longest period of time possible.
Still, I want to understand their logic. This is not the same as agreeing with them, I need to understand what they are attempting to do and what they are saying.
The first thing that the First did was to assume that LCMs are “arms” within the scope of the Second Amendment
—id. at 8. This is plain nasty, evil crap for the circuit courts to do.
Bruen directs the inferior courts to follow Heller. The first step is to determine if the individuals’ conduct is within the scope of the Second Amendment. “Assuming” is not “determining”. This would be as bad as a court saying “We assume the party would win on the merits, but we find that they will lose on balance of equity, so there is no need to do the first prong of the Winter factors.”
I’m sure the lawyers who are reading this are saying, “Idiot, it happens all the time.” I am not a lawyer. I’m a computer geek. No matter how you slice it, it is a shitty thing to do. It is lazy and unprofessional. Everybody knows that we need the circuits to say whether LCMs are “arms” or not. As soon as they say they are not, then we can start the appeals to get that overturned.
Having stated that they are going to assume, without finding, they First then moves to answer the question, “Is HB 6614 [LCM ban] consistent with our history and tradition.”
—id.
This is a true statement that makes no difference. Having decided that this is an arms ban case, the question then becomes “are LCMs in common use for lawful purposes?”. If the answer is “yes”, then the case is over, in our favor.
But, of course, the First claims it does matter:
—id. at 9
Taking the latter first, my rights are not dependent on the acts of others. Just because Maxine Waters gets in front of her people and the cameras and says, “Get in their face; bother people at every restaurant where you can find a Cabinet Member”, I don’t lose my First Amendment protected rights to free speech. No matter how much “hate speech” they use, no matter how much racist crap they spew, it does not allow them to abuse my rights.
But let’s look at the former. The First Found no direct precedent. That might be the case, but it is irrelevant.
—New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., Inc. V. Bruen, 142 S.Ct. 2111, 19 (U.S. 2022) slip opinion
The Bruen court has clearly stated that cases like Bruen and Heller are relatively simple, not requiring a nuanced approach.
What type of cases are Heller and Bruen? They are arms ban cases! Exactly what Ocean State is challenging. They are challenging an arms ban case.
The circuit courts like to pretend that mass shootings are a new societal concern. They are full of it. The Supreme Court was well aware of mass shootings.
April 16, 2007, 33 people were killed and 17 wounded on the grounds of Virginia Tech. The asshole doing the shooting was using a handgun. Heller was about a handgun ban. The Supreme Court considered mass shootings before they issued their opinion in Heller.
The Supreme Court had multiple cases before them seeking cert. that briefed them on the horrors of mass shootings and the horrors of “assault weapons”.
This is not a new issue. There is no excuse for a “nuanced approach” by the First Circuit.
—Opinion, No. 23-1072, slip op. at 10
Can you find a historical regulation banning murder? Yes. And it is a tradition, too. Can you find a historical regulation banning murder with guns? No. It is subsumed into murder. It is already banned. Can you find a historical regulation banning murder with guns with detachable magazines? No, you can not.
The lack of a “twin” to the modern regulation banning murder with a gun doesn’t invalidate the current ban. There is a history and tradition of banning murder.
The First makes a profound error here. They claim that because there is no match to the modern regulation, they are instructed by the Supreme Court to loosen the requirements for a match.
What the Supreme Court actually said was that if there is no match, then the modern regulation is unconstitutional.
The First then uses that “too specific to match” to lie by omission. there was no comparable problem with gun violence at schools
Maybe there was no “gun violence” but there was certainly violence.
—Wikipedia: Enoch Brown school massacre (Feb. 2024)
The number of armed attacks by Indians upon settlers is extensive.
So the First exhibited ignorance when they said school shootings were unknown in the founding era.
Having decided to ignore Bruen‘s statement of when the state can use looser criteria in matching past laws, the Court then decides to resurrected from the ashes good old interest balancing.
“Relevantly similar” is the language of the Supreme Court.
What did the Bruen Court say?
—Bruen, 142 S.Ct. at 19–20
Note, my citation and theirs differ, yet the language is a match.
The Bruen court, in explaining how Heller works, says that regulations must match using a good metric.
we do think that Heller and McDonald point toward at least two metrics: how and why the regulations burden a law-abiding citizen’s right to armed self-defense.
—id. at 20
To rephrase, “how a regulation burdens a citizen’s right to keep and bear arms” and “why a regulation burdens a citizen’s right to keep and bear arms.”. That seems pretty simple.
The Supreme Court continues, whether modern and historical regulations impose a comparable burden on the right of armed self-defense and whether that burden is comparably justified
—id.
Here is where the First Circuit stakes their claim of comparing burdens.
—id. n. 7
When the Supreme Court speaks of “burden on” they mean how the people were burdened by the regulation. Were they told how to store their arms? What arms they could possess? What arms they could carry? How they carried their arms?
These are the “how metric” of Heller as affirmed by Bruen.
To gauge how HB 6614 might burden the right of armed self-defense, we consider the extent to which LCMs are actually used by civilians in self-defense.
—Opinion, No. 23-1072, slip op. at 11 This is a profound misreading of Heller and Bruen. The “how” in question is “the modern regulation is banning an arm”.
The extent that magazines are used or not used has nothing to do with how a regulation burden’s a member of The People.
—id.
Here is the dirty little secret of civil rights, the amount of burden is not at issue.
It’s no real burden to stand over in that place to speak. It’s no real burden to get government permission to stand on your soapbox and talk. It’s no real burden to tax printing ink.
That might be true. That it is “no real burden”. That doesn’t mean that there is no burden.
If there is a burden, the courts must find that the how of the burden has a historical match.
And yes, First Circuit, any burden on the right to armed self-defense is a substantial burden.
To attempt to save themselves, they then use the NFA as a “historical” match in weapons ban. How did the NFA burden the right of armed self-defense with regulated arms? You had to pay a substantial tax. Was it a ban? No! There are no federal bans on sawed of shotguns. There are no bans on short barreled rifles. There are no bans on machine guns.
All such bans are at the state level, which have not been directly challenged — yet.
So the “how” doesn’t match. Never mind that the regulation comes much too late in history.
They also bring up the tired old and even the severe restrictions placed on Bowie knives by forty-nine states
—id. at 13 Except those historical “severe restrictions” were on carrying Bowie knives. Not a ban.
The rest of the opinion is filled with obfuscations. They say that the why for the NFA is a match for their magazine ban. They are correct. It is a match. In 1934. Nowhere near 1791. It can be discounted, out of hand.
They then go back to the Bowie knife argument. Most of those regulations came after the founding era. The Court claims the earliest was 1830. That is barely inside the range of “founding era.”
The Heller court was aware of the Bowie knife regulations. They didn’t find them enough to justify a ban on arms for self-defense.
I think I have my head around this. I’m going to go swallow a couple of Tylenol, maybe my head will stop hurting then.
I HATE this modern english…. W. T. F. is LCM?????? can We the People start speaking ENGLISH please.. I get it enough in the corporation I work for where every fukkin thing is shortened to 3 letters. and then when you ask questions you get treated like a moron.. “you don’t know what that is???”. no. no I fukking don’t. end of rant…
“LCM” in the context here stands for Large Capacity Magazines but otherwise it stands for Least Common Multiple.
Large Capacity Magazine.
I had to stop and think about it for awhile, as well.
The way I interpret this is, the first circuit is willing to say anything they think will delay it getting to the SC, and put out justifications and rationalizations that they and other circuits can reference to support other bad decisions in the meantime. They have decided, apparently, that neither the Constitution nor the SC’s instructions matter if they get in the way of ruling the way they want.
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Sorry, a little cynical this AM.
quote from Mr Boris above- They have decided, apparently, that neither the Constitution nor the SC’s instructions matter if they get in the way of ruling the way they want- and there you have the democratic mindset, it doesn’t matter what “the law” is, do it MY way.. thank yall for the definition.. coffee hadn’t kicked in yet….. and things like this frost me…
One of the great advances of human history, at least in my opinion, was the concept of codified laws that applied to everyone, not just what the king (or whatever local headman) felt like at any given time. That’s a hallmark of civilization and a civilized society.
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It strikes me that today we are regressing back towards whatever the strong man says.
First of all, IANAL warning is in full effect here.
If there is a multi-step test involved, and saying yes (or no, depending on the question) means you do not have to go to the next step, then as soon as you answer correct, end of story. Just because you will fail the second question does not mean the answer to the first does not matter.
Just because the NY Jets will not win the Super Bowl is no reason to remove them from the NFL season before it starts.
Neil Smith used to point out a problem with rogue politicians (including rogue courts), which is that they view the Constitution as a set of nitpicky rules to get around, rather than as what it actually is, the supreme law of the land. A related common problem is that they tend to treat the Constitution as “if it isn’t explicitly prohibited, the government can do it to you” rather than what it actually is, an enumerated list of things the government is allowed to do (allowing nothing not explicitly enumerated).