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A man killed 4 in a stabbing rampage that lasted hours. He was arrested at a 7-Eleven

A man killed four people during a stabbing rampage in Southern California before officers found his car parked outside a 7-Eleven convenience store and arrested him, authorities said.

In addition to the people killed, the attacker left two wounded in multiple crime scenes in Garden Grove and Santa Ana, police said.
The victims killed included two people at the suspect’s apartment complex, a 7-Eleven security guard and one more person at a Subway restaurant.

Dude killed four people, including a security guard, with a knife.

The suspect was armed with “two very large machete-type knives,” Lt. Carl Whitney of the Garden Grove Police Department told CNN, “and he was very brutal when he attacked his victims.”

Sorry, two large “machete-type” knives.

Just after 6 p.m., officers got a robbery siren alarm at an insurance business in Garden Grove. The suspect had stabbed a woman at the business, stolen money and taken off, police said. “This female employee was very brave. This guy was armed with knives — she fought as best as she could,” Whitney said.

Shortly after, police got another call of a man stabbed in the back while pumping gas and his nose nearly slashed off by the same suspect.

It’s a good thing those people were not able to carry guns to defend themselves from a crazy guy with two machetes because that would have led to chaos and the streets running red with blood.

You know, this wouldn’t have happened if California had common sense knife control.  Actually, it sort of does.  But since “machete-type” knives are not “dirks or daggers” they are legal, which sounds like some sort of “yard work implement loophole” that needs to be closed immediately.

This is the United States.  Why does anybody need to be carrying two machetes on them?

UPDATE:

There is video of his arrest.

His “machete-type” knife was a 10 inch Chef’s knife.  Seriously.

I don’t know who decided that “machete-type” knife was the proper description but that is friggin’ ridiculous.

NEW VIDEO: Man Arrested After Stabbing Spree Kills 4 in Orange County @NBCLA

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— Kenny Holmes (@KHOLMESlive) August 8, 2019

Meet Jake that goes under the Twitter handler of @USMCLiberal.

Jake is an expert because he is a Marine (or so he says) so you must believe what he is saying. I screen captured this delightful cascade of BS for your entertainment and I’ll begin fisking at the bottom of the pic:

“AR 15 AK 47’s… are terrible for selfdefense”
Which is why they are not used in any military to safeguard installations, right?

I’ll tell you from the viewpoint of a Marine, with extensive training on these weapons, how they elevate violence, are terrible for selfdefense, and shouldn’t be on our streets.
Thank God we have somebody like you to save us from ourselves! where would we be otherwise!

“If we’re talking about personal security, whether in your home, your store, or out on the street— nothing is more effective than a can of bear spray.”
Oh yeah, Bear Spray is “effective” up to 35 feet and then  you are screwed. Any “yute”  with a rock can pop in the head you easily at twice that distance. Also, a Dollar Store umbrella can stop or deflect Bear Spray. %.56 NATO rounds? Not so much.

The last thing I’d reach for is a long rifle or a handgun. So the idea of “self defense” as a reason to own them is ridiculous.
A question that then begs to be asked: Why does the military issue rifles and handguns to fight wars? I reckon just loading you with Bear Spray and I am sure you could have cleaned Tora Boar all by yourself.

As someone with more weapons training than most Americans, I know how firearms can fail you in a rushed response to a threat.
You were supposed to remove the safety before shooting. That is not a failure of the instrument but the player. Call of Duty is harder than it looks according to my nephews.

And anyone who’s on drugs, who might be immune to bear spray, would also take several shots from a firearm— even if they’re well-placed.
Super Zombies!  Destroy the brain and still they keep coming….wait one second. What do you mean immune to bear spray? You just were selling the effing thing as better than a gun! What the actual fork?

Good luck doing that when that threat is quickly bearing down on you.
I’ll take my chances with a firearm, thank you. At least bullet holes deplete the amount of blood of the attacker… unless you are proposing that with some drugs you don’t need blood. Are we talking Zombies again?

The AR platform is not a defense weapon.
Yet it performs the job ever so well. There are two home invaders  residing in a morgue in Florida because of that “not a defensive weapon”

It is designed for an assault.
“PFC Jake! What the fuck are you doing with an AR15? The Taliban is attacking and they get to use AK47s You are not assaulting, so you get to use bear spray to defend our position!”
Get the point, Jakey?

And handguns also present a number of issues when trying to confront an immediate threat.
We know Jake, that is why we shoot till the threat has stopped and, by the way, also the reason we want out guns with those evil high capacity magazines.

In close proximity, the AR has a number of deficiencies. It’s long, requiring the target to be at a distance.
Wait, are you saying that a 5.56 round is not effective coming out of the muzzle than it is about 100 yards downrange? Were you sleep in rifle class? Or maybe you weren’t at all.

Within the reactionary gap, getting it into your shoulder to take aim is time wasted.
Now I know you read something in the Internet and you think you are an expert. Apparently you don’t suffer from reactionary gap if you are packing bear spray.

And handguns, when fired in a panic, are notoriously inaccurate.
The gun is not affected by panic or hunger or the need to watch a Hallmark Christmas movie. A handgun is an object and it is the shooter who is inaccurate. You sounds like guy at the range who blames bad sights for shooting all over the target and not the bulls’ eye.

But the cone on a can of bear spray is wide, and ensures that you’ll hit your target, without fumbling with the safety or the slide.
No, it is not wide. And have you ever seen a can of bear spray up close or just in YouTube videos? They have safeties you uneducated poser! Some even have pull pins like grenades! And as a Marine, you know what a grenade is, right?

If you want safe and effective self defense, a can of bear spray is, by far, your best option.
Our best option for self defense is ignore all the dangerous crap you have been spouting and go with the proven solutions.

Speaking on the mentality of the AR/AK platforms. There is an immediate desire to “destroy” when you put them in your hands.
Huh? I am not in favor of Red Flag orders, but you buddy are a walking-talking example of a straight Baker Act. Unless he happened to grab one of the Hatian Assault Weapons imbued with Voodoo and stuff that make you straight cold killers. I think I have seen a movie like that once There was a Cuban Santeria AK47, but it only made you want to drink very strong coffee and talk loud.

Only when my training objectives were to put rounds in a specific target on a range, did I focus on my breathing and trigger control.
Good to know the USMC has the proper training to counter Voodoo. I guess they picked it up when they visited the country back in 1915 and then again in 1995.

Every other time I’ve had an AR or AK in my hands, and was getting ready to shoot in an unsupervised setting, I’ve wanted to lay waste to everything on the range.
Baker Act, on Aisle 4! Stat!

And I’m not a violent person.
We are seriously wondering about that. Sane people don’t touch objects and suddenly develop a desire to “lay waste to everything.”

There’s a feeling of power that accompanies firearm of an “assault” nature.
I agree. It means you are not the weak subject of somebody who wants to impose violence upon you and that you are capable to return the favor in spades.

They’re designed for dominance, not defense.
The way you say dominance sounds like it is a dirty word. And if I got a bunch of idiots breaking into my home, I sure want to defend myself by “dominancing” the living daylights out of them with whatever weapon I chose to do so.

And when you combine that with the hatred and sense of bigoted superiority that #WhiteSupremacists have, you have all the elements for another #MassShooting.
And finally the real message: You are a Nazi  (because I say so) and you do not get to defend yourself with the right tools. #EveryoneIDon’tLikeIsHitler

Get lost Jake. If you are not Stolen Valor, you are an embarrassment to the Corps for being so stupid you probably would not qualify for the Mali UN Peacekeeping Force.

Hat tip to Mal Roadkill @MalRoadkill for directing me to this …individual even before I had my first coffee… hatechu with love. 🙂

People are protesting in Hong Kong, and the Chinese government replied with a propaganda video reminding the protesters that the Chinese military could come in and kill them all.

London had had to put up signs telling people what to do in case of an acid attack and not to shit on the streets.

Sweden is having a problem with migrants feuding with hand grenades.

Women in Venezuela are being targeted for human trafficking because of the economic collapse in that country.

Christians are being persecuted at genocidal levels in Muslim countries around the world.

But Amnesty International wants to remind the world that it is the United States that is a piece of shit.

The travel advisory addressed growing gun violence, mostly hate crimes, including racism and discrimination, highlighting that the traveler’s race, country of origin, ethnic background, sexual orientation or gender identity may place them at higher risk after recent attacks linked to white supremacist ideology.

The action called attention to the extent to which all aspects of life in the United States have been compromised in some way by unfettered access to guns, without comprehensive and uniform regulation of their acquisition and use. By prioritizing gun ownership over basic human rights, the U.S. government is willfully and systematically failing on multiple levels and ignoring its international obligations to protect people’s rights and safety.

I wonder how Boer farmers in South Africa or Christians in Nigeria would feel about having gun rights?

I wonder how Germans who just watched a Syrian refugee hack a man to death in the street with a sword would feel about gun rights?

I wonder how the Venezuelan people felt about gun rights when they were being run over by government forces in armored cars for protesting?

None of these countries have guaranteed the protection of their citizens from rape, murder, and sexual slavery.

See, it’s not really about human rights and it’s not really about the level of violence people might actually be exposed to.  It is about pushing a narrative and that narrative is that the United States is a uniquely bad and awful place because our citizens have gun rights instead of being subjects to tyrannical governments.

From the Hollywood Reporter:

Ads Pulled for Gory Universal Thriller ‘The Hunt’ in Wake of Mass Shootings (Exclusive)

This isn’t the first time a movie has had the trailers pulled because of some high profile crime. Years ago the suspense thriller Phone Booth was delayed because of the DC Snipers.

The problem is the headline of this article does not reflect the enormity of the contents of the article.

In the wake of a trio of deadly massacres, the studio is evaluating its strategy for the R-rated Blumhouse satire in which elites stalk “deplorables.”

Ummm… what?

“Did anyone see what our ratfucker-in-chief just did?” one character asks early in the screenplay for The Hunt, a Universal Pictures thriller set to open Sept. 27. Another responds: “At least The Hunt’s coming up. Nothing better than going out to the Manor and slaughtering a dozen deplorables.”

This is a major motion picture that Hollywood sunk money into and expects us in Middle America to pay money to watch.

In the aftermath of mass shootings within days of one another that shocked and traumatized the nation, Universal is re-evaluating its strategy for the certain-to-be-controversial satire. The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum’s Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals.

It took a mass shooting to for some in Hollywood to reevaluate the idea of a murder porn in which they take pleasure in killing working class, Middle American, Republicans.

The script for The Hunt features the red-state characters wearing trucker hats and cowboy shirts, with one bragging about owning seven guns because it’s his constitutional right. The blue-state characters — some equally adept with firearms — explain that they picked their targets because they expressed anti-choice positions or used the N-word on Twitter. “War is war,” says one character after shoving a stiletto heel through the eye of a denim-clad hillbilly.

So the ultimate Hollywood Progressive fantasy is to murder Leftist caricatures of gun-owning Conservatives.

“Employees in different departments were questioning the wisdom of making such a movie in these times,” says one filmmaker with ties to Universal. “In light of the horrific [recent shootings], is this not the most craven, irresponsible, dangerous exploitation?”

Maybe confirming to Middle America just how much the Progressive elite look down on us was a bad idea to begin with.

That point is countered by a Universal executive, who says the movie “is meant to show what a stupid, crazy world we live in,” adding, “It might even be more powerful now.”

So he wants to air his Republican murder porn.

Keep in mind that these are the same people who want to ban you from owning guns.  Who say that your gun ownership is racist and terrible and irresponsible.

Knowing just how much they hate us really fills you with the warm and fuzzies, doesn’t it?

Next time some Hollywood starlet says that we need to give up our guns, remember that is only because they know in their minds that it will make it easier for them to kill us.

This is by car “gun safe.” We know it is barely a strong box, but it does the job we want it to do which is to withstand a basic snatch attack of our gun. When this vehicle finally goes to Junkhalla, the next one will have a stronger and will also be bigger as to accommodate long guns.

So what was the stupid? Today I had to go to a Gun Free Zone (as defined in the law) and obviously I had also to disarm. I was in a bot of a hurry, target locked on a parking spot near the entrance, parked, got the box from under the seat and proceeded to secure the gun. When I was about to slide it under the seat, I look out of the passenger window and saw that the truck next to me not only was occupied but by the body language, the people inside had watched what I did.

I drove away. No screeching of tires or nothing, just smooth behavior out of the parking lot and onto the street. I drove around for a while making sure I was not being followed. Then I went ahead, took care of other stuff and returned about 40 minutes later. The truck was gone and I did not see anybody paying undue attention to me or my vehicle.

100% my fault. I got lazy, forgot to look around prior to park and then parking, making sure nobody was watching. Never forget that unless proven otherwise, failures of safety bounce back directly to something you knew you should have done.

Lesson re-learned.

I am currently creating an encyclopedia of mass murder in America and have catalogued 504 incidents so far. Common methods used throughout our history include axes, hatchets, blunt objects, knives, hanging, drowning, poison gas, poison, fire, and aircraft (and not just on 9/11). Some of the rarer weapons demonstrate that where there is an evil will, there is a way. Scythes. Blowtorches.
Of course, the axes and hatchets were around because they were needed in an age when people cooked over wood stoves. I can imagine axe-control fanatics in 1890 arguing that “an axe in your home is more likely to be used against you than against an intruder.” And perhaps it would have been true: The “Church of the Sacrifice” slaughtered dozens of families with their own axes in the early 20th century.
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There’s the 1973 mass murder at a gay bar in New Orleans that killed 32: An ejected customer went down the street and bought a can of cigarette-lighter fluid. And the 87 murdered in New York City in 1990: A guy upset with his ex-girlfriend bought $1 worth of gasoline. In 1986 in San Juan, Puerto Rico, union officers put pressure on an employer by using camp-stove gas to murder 97. On July 5 of this year, a guy in Port Angeles, Wash., burned his trailer, killing his wife and three children. Did you see that on CNN?

Clayton Cramer – Mass Murder without Guns

Old time readers know I have covered murderous arson before. Even with 9/11 and the Oklahoma City Bombing in the countdown, murder by fire easily have the biggest body count, far exceeding what is trumpeted in the press with “modern” firearms. There were other means to achieve the body count without an AR 15 and I hope to God killers do not find out from history.

Madness and evil are the only constants and common denominators through years past and present.

Remember everything I have been saying for the last 48 hours about the people of influence not giving a single solitary shit about actually trying to prevent the next mass shooter, only focusing on driving the partisan outrage that gets them clicks, contributions, and ad revenue?

Well, it’s like they just can’t help but prove me right.

There is a lot to be concerned about when it comes to the Constitutionality of Red Flag laws.  I am an ardent defender of the right to keep and bear arms, I think my history with this blog shows that.

At the same time, after Parkland, El Paso, and Daytona, it might be a good idea to have some sort of program in place where a person can call up and tell the police “hey, this guy I know has a list of all the women he wants to rape and guys he wants to kill, can you come and make sure he’s not going to go psycho and shoot up a movie theater or something?”

Whatever protections are put in place to make sure that peoples’ due process rights are not violated is a subject of much debate.

But I supremely believe that most people want to keep guns out of the hands of people like Nikolas Cruz before they go on their massacre.

Then I see some bullshit like the stuff David Frum put on Twitter and I realize that the idea of any sort of mass shooting prevention is dead in the water.

Really?

Yeah, really.

I get that sort of open carry is jackass behavior.  It’s legal in a lot of places, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to do it.  And this comes from someone who lives in an open carry state and occasionally open carries himself.

But… are these red flag worthy?  No, no they are not.

If you think these were the worst examples, no, Frum gets even dumber.

This is what was quoted:

That doesn’t seem like woman-hatred to me at all.  It’s a fairly reasonable argument.  But Frum doesn’t like being argued against, so it’s easier to claim that this guy is a dangerous woman-hater and red flag him.

If you go into the comments on any one of these Tweets, you’ll see quite a number of people also stating that if they see anybody with a gun (open or concealed) they will red flag that person.

These people don’t want red flag laws to prevent mass shooters.  They just want to abuse them to harass law-abiding gun owners with the weight of the law.

Not just does this put people’s rights at risk, it also puts the lives of gun owners and law enforcement at risk.

I want to support some sort of mass shooter prevention law, but I’m not going to back anything that anti-gunners are gleeful to abuse to get me arrested and stripped of my rights because of my CCW pistol.

When you are more excited about how to use a law to intimidate law-abiding gun owners than you are about a law being able to stop an actual threat, you are part of the problem.

Their open desire to abuse this law for partisan gain instead of saving lives is why we can’t even begin to discuss doing something helpful.