Overwhelming Gun Bans: Fail in Illinois, next to New York with double down
The Illinois Senate failed to gather enough votes to pass a sweeping ban that would have pretty much send people scrambling for revolvers and single shot rifles and shotguns. Gun Control legislators promise to come back again, but doubtful that it will work.
In the meantime, The NY State Senate has introduced its own version of Ultra Gun Banning Bill. I think they may have to rewrite it soon or it will also die a stupid death mainly because it does not exempt cops from possessing the evil assault weapons. And since the definition includes semi auto pistols, we might end up seeing every Law Enforcement in the Empire State jonesing for revolvers.
Remember, they NEVER wanted to ban your guns, they just wanted to have a “conversation about guns.”
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REMINDER: Have you joined/renewed your membership with the NRA, SAF and GOA? Don’t forget your state Gun Rights Groups.
Masks falling off.
In a way and as dangerous as they are, The President’s Blue Ribbon panel Gun control without the presence of any Pro Second Amendment representation, Senator Feinstein’s bill along the proposed state bills in Illinois and what might be coming out of Connecticut is good ammunition to our cause.
THEY CANNOT LONGER SAY THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A “CONVERSATION ABOUT GUNS” AND “WE DON’T WANT TO BAN YOUR GUNS.”
Basically and as we knew all along, they were lying. We know this, the Opposition knows it too since they are the liars, but now we can point out to anybody undecided or just seeking information that anything coming from their camp must be treated with the same confidence as “The check is in the mail” and “I promise I call you in the morning.”
We do have to fight all these schemes, but we have to use every piece of ammo available, specially if provided by the Gun Control Advocates.
REMINDER: Have you joined/renewed your membership with the NRA, SAF and GOA? Don’t forget your state Gun Rights Groups.
Man bites dog…and another man…and gets shot for his hunger.
Police said the homeowner found the naked trespasser choking his pet Rottweiler. “[The homeowner] spotted a person that is not only fighting with his dog, but is naked fighting with his dog,” said Moreno.
When the homeowner tried to intervene, the intruder attacked him. “He immediately jumped on the owner and started fighting with him,” explained Moreno.
The homeowner told police he shot the man in the leg because he was biting him. “For right now, it does appear to be a justified shooting,” Moreno said.
The proper application of an appetite suppressor ended up the feeding frenzy.
Shiva Facepalm: BLOODY REEL–HOW THE NRA AND THE GUN INDUSTRY EXPLOIT VIOLENT MOVIES TO SELL GUNS …AND MORE GUNS
This report is about the hypocrisy of the National Rifle Association and the gun industry it represents. Even as they pretend to condemn violence in movies, both exploit images of guns in extremely violent movies to sell the increasingly lethal military-style guns that define today’s civilian gun market…
…How the NRA promotes the use of guns in violent movies through its widely-publicized–and ongoing–“Hollywood Guns” special exhibit in its National Firearms Museum, in its official publications, and on its Internet website. Wayne LaPierre himself is credited as “executive producer” of the current “Hollywood Guns” exhibit at the NRA’s national headquarters.
So, the NRA somehow manages to influence ultra-left-wing NRA-Hating Hollywood into producing movies with guns and lotsa violence so we can sell more guns? And the proof is that the NRA museum has a display about guns used in famous movies?
That would be like accusing the Holocaust Museum of supporting Nazism because they show movies, pictures and objects from the Concentration Camps.
Dear Mr. Diaz, the NRA did not take on Gun Rights Activism until the Cincinnati revolt in 1977. Before that it was just a very pastoral, very hunting & outdoor group. Why do I mention that? Because the first gun you mention, the Smith & Wesson Model 29 used by Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry appears to give you the vapors of indignation and proof positive of the unholy alliance between the NRA and Hollywood. The problem is that the movie came out 6 years before the NRA’s Cincinnati Revolt when the NRA went spheres to the vertical barricade on Second Amendment Issues. You may want to read all about it by following this link provided by the Violence Policy Center which I am sure it is one of your many sources of information….except this time.
Mr. Diaz, allow me to quote The Duke in The Sands of Iwo Jima: “Life is tough, but it’s tougher if you’re stupid.”
PS: “Shiva Facepalm: When two hands are not enough.” Now I only need somebody with good graphic abilities and design a Shiva doing a triple facepalm.
A huge “What If”: I might need a Constitutional Lawyer
I was giving Sen, Feinstein’s bill some thought at work last nite and got to think about worst case scenario with congress caving and the bill passing and signed into law. I have no doubt that it would be taken to court immediately and fast-tracked to SCOTUS where it would probably die a fast death because of Heller.
But what if the court proceedings go beyond the ban itself and revisits NFA 34 and US v. Miller? Miller was a decision made with the defendant missing and only the voice of Government stating their side of the case, which it would not be the case this time around. If NFA 34 is deemed unconstitutional and Miller reversed, if the whole house of cards does not come down, it’d be pretty close. Food for thought to a Constitutional lawyer.
But I really do not want to go that way. Thankyouverymuchjustthesame. I’ll settle for a generalized slapping in Congress and send Dianne back to chew on recycled mulch.
Senator Feinstein’s Bill: A twisted & tortuous way to criminalize and victimize Americans. (Updated)
I might be giving her and her sycophants from ATF too much credit, but the registration scheme in Senator Feinstein’s bill will create a massive group of felons once the registration of firearms would be closed.
One detail that is not in the bill as presented now is how long will the registration process will last. We can safely assume based on what we know of the actual NFA that it will be slow, inefficient and dangerously tilted to screw gun owners. Rumor has it (OK, more than a rumor) that the NFA Branch of ATF does not precisely know how many guns has in its registry nor they are willing to confirm so. Numbers gathered for different sources tell us that “officially” there should be some 150,000 to 200,000 machine guns in file but nobody ever figured out how many machine guns and others qualifying for registration under NFA 34 are out there unregistered. There was many a G.I. who did not know or cared that bringing full weapons back from wars prior to Korea/Vietnam was illegal unless they were registered. Some say that anywhere from one million to 2 million machine guns are in the hands/basements/attics of Americans making the NFA Registry short by 90% or so, plus a total failure.
Let’s go down to brass tacks: As it stands today, it takes the NFA Branch between 6 to sometimes 9 months to accept, process and issue the paperwork for a machine gun, a short barrel rifle/shotgun or a silencer. I don’t think I am wrong in stating that out of the 300 million firearms in the US, 200 million would be within the scoop of Sen Feinstein’s bill and let’s say that the Senator is graceful enough to allow Gun Owners a full year to register the guns (usually the grace periods are 30 to 90 days). Let’s do the math:
200,000,000 guns ÷ 260 days (full year of 5 day working week) = 769,230 guns registered per business day.
547,945 guns ÷ 8 hours (working day) = 96,153 guns per hour. or 1,602 per minute, 27 per second.
The NFA branch also has the reputation to screw up big time with the records but that is not their problem, it is YOUR problem to prove they messed up and fix it without going to jail. A good equivalent is like calling the IRS for a consultation, follow the instructions you are given and then getting nailed with fines and interests because the information was wrong. It is their idea and screw up, but your responsibility at the end. We will be in the same boat.
So it goes without saying that it will be impossible to register that many weapons and give its owners the required paperwork in a year’s time. And again, I don’t think we will get one year to register our weapons at all. So why bothering with it? Because it forces you to either hide your guns and become a Felon-in-Waiting or you shall be forced to turn in your unregistered guns to your local PD for disposal. And it does even more: It effectively kills self-defense with a firearm for the majority of gun owners. “Oh yes sir, you have the right to defend yourself, no doubt about it. But say, Is that gun a semi? is it registered with NFA? May I see the paperwork? Oh darn! It is not registered! I am sorry sir, you are under arrest for violation of NFA 34 which is punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison and forfeiture of all devices or firearms in violation, and the individual’s right to own or possess firearms in the future.” This is a scheme being used in other countries where strict Gun Control is the norm and it has pretty much ended the idea of self-defense. Nobody wants to end up in the same prison with the criminal he just shot or friends of the criminal if he ended up sucking daisies from the subterranean end. The result? Violent Crime rates skyrocket after its implementation.
But Miguel! If it helps to keep guns from the hands of criminals, it is a sacrifice well worth it! Cute but we already know that Bad Guys really do not care about laws and then we have the case of Haynes v. United States where the Supreme Court indicated that punishing felons for failing to register a gun is a violation of their Fifth Amendment Rights as it would compel felons to incriminate themselves.
I am sure there are many more problems that will come up with having our regular guns registered under NFA rules ($200 tax per gun, I forgot that one) but I expect you have heard from people who have NFA items or at least one or two are readers of the blog. Please add in the comments anything else missing.
(sorry if I sound rambling and dumber than usual. Need sleep and haven’t got any yet. Feel free to correct and improve.)
UPDATES:
From ChrisM
The big one with the NFA scheme is the approval by your local Chief LEO. THere are plenty of places where police chiefs and others will not sign off on Form 1′s or 4′s. that would effectively prevent people living in these areas from owning any of these firearms. There was talk of this requirement going away, but as far as I know it’s still in place. I’m fortunate in that it’s not a problem for me, but not everyone is so lucky. This could be a major back door way to limit people’s ability to keep guns they already own.