Where a Hispanic Catholic, and a Computer Geek write about Gun Rights, Self Defense and whatever else we can think about.
Roger Moore passed away after a brief battle with cancer. I know Connery gets all the props and Moore never got the respect, but he was my Bond.
His movies had the best stunts and best music. And it is fitting in my opinion to say goodbye with Carly Simon.
In a previous post, Miguel showed a post from the Nation Gun Victims Action Council. I have never been to their site or their Facebook page before.
I went to take a look.
Holy shit. They are the Stormfront of the anti-gun movement.
I mean that with the greatest degree of sincerity.
I tried to find a definition of a hate group. It was harder than I thought. The “leader” in defining hate groups is the South Poverty Law Center. Unfortunately, according to them hate groups are pretty much only Christian and White. The list the New Black Panthers as a hate group but not Black Lives Matter. They call out the Jewish Defense League but not the Muslim Student Association or Students for Justice in Palestine, which actually orchestrates antisemitic violence on college campuses. They are too partisan for an impartial definition.
The best I could find was from Wikipedia.
A hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation or any other designated sector of society. According to the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a hate group’s “primary purpose is to promote animosity, hostility, and malice against persons belonging to a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin which differs from that of the members of the organization.”[1] Scholars find it difficult to define the term hate group and “whether a particular group is to be classified as a hate group is sometimes in the eye of the beholder.”[2]
Continuing through the Wikipedia page on Hate Groups, was the section of the article on internet hate groups.
While many hate sites are explicitly antagonistic or violent, others may appear patriotic or benign, and this façade may contribute to the appeal of the group.[35] Hate group websites work towards the following goals: to educate group members and the public, to encourage participation, to claim a divine calling and privilege, and to accuse out-groups (e.g. the government or media). Groups that work effectively towards these goals via an online presence tend to strengthen their sense of identity, decrease threat levels from out-groups, and recruit more new members.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center (SWC), in its 2009 iReport, identified more than 10,000 problematic hate and terrorist websites and other Internet postings. The report includes hate websites, social networks, blogs, newsgroups, YouTube and other video sites. The findings illustrate that as the Internet continues to grow, extremists find new ways to seek validation for their hateful agendas and to recruit members.
Creators of hate pages and groups on Facebook choose their target, set up their page or group, and then recruit members.[36] Anyone can create a Facebook group and invite followers to post comments, add pictures and participate in discussion boards. A Facebook page is similar, with the exception that one must “like” the page in order to become a member. Because of the ease of creating and joining such groups, many so-called hate groups exist only in cyberspace.[32] United Patriots Front, an internet-based Australian far-right anti-immigration and neo-nazi organisation formed in 2015[37] has been described as a hate group.[38]
In the eye of this beholder, the Nation Gun Victims Action Council is a hate group. I believe the internet hate group definition best describes the state of mind of the the NGVAC. I think that the NGVAC as a hate group is one that models itself on some of the worst antisemitic tropes and hate online.
One of the oldest and pervasive antisemitic canard is that the Jews control the government. If you were to go to a random antisemitic website you will see claims that the Congress is beholden to Jews, the US goverment fights wars on behalf of Israel or the Israel Lobby, or any number of other insinuation that the tiny minority of Jews in the world wields enormous subversive political and economic power in the US to the detriment of the American people.
That last sentiment is exactly what the NGVAC believes about the NRA.
The NGVAC asserts that the NRA and its 5 million members control congress, using their financial might, for the benefit of NRA members but to the detriment and death of millions more American citizens.
It is the trope of the small cabal wielding undue, subversive influence.
On the topic of subversive influence and the Nazi idea of Jews draining a nation’s economy, the NGVAC also promotes the lie that the NRA/law abiding gun owners undermine America’s economy by using government to fund their hobby.
When you read the actual article, what gives is the $229 Billion total that the government spends on everything from reimbursing hospitals for gang members that get shot to court room and prison time for criminals who commit gun crimes. This is what they define as our “hobby.” They claim since we law abiding gun owners are not paying for the cost of criminal activity, we are draining the resources of the goverment for our own pleasure.
Lastly in this theme is that the NRA actually supports ISIS terrorism by making it easier for terrorist to buy guns. If controlling the congress and draining the coffers of the US isn’t enough, we are arming terrorist. This of course, is a debunked lie, but that doesn’t matter to the bigot spreading hate.
What would a piece of antisemitic propaganda be without a grotesque stereotype of a Jew as an an ugly, hooked nosed, sickly looking caricature.
Born in Nazi Germany, it is a creation that exists all over the Jew hating internet and is disgustingly pervasive.
The NGVAC can’t seem to help themselves but produce cartoons of what they envision the NRA member/gun owner stereotype to be. A grotesquely obese, stupid, reactionary, aggressive, redneck, with metal illness, a big gun and a small penis.
If spreading lies and slander about gun owners wasn’t enough. The NGVAC and its internet supporters take every opportunity to wish violence on gun owners.
To the extent that they celebrate when a gun owner is tragically killed.
The people posting for the NGVAC and many of their Facebook supporters have a seething hatred for the NRA and gun owners. They are willing to spread detestable lies about us, mock and stereotype us, and accuse us undermining our country.
Like other bigoted groups, they try to justify their bigotry. They want to make their hatred seem reasonable. Just as a member of a white supremacist group would argue that blacks are a danger to society by cherry picking a handful of crimes committed by black offenders, the NGVAC will slander all legal gun owners, NRA members, and concealed carry permit holders by cherry picked anecdotes.
They rely on insults and grotesque cartoons to whip their supporters into a frenzy of hate against gun owners.
Their Facebook page parallels the worst of Neo-Nazi or White Supremacist boards for lies and hate.
The only difference is that they target gun owners instead of a race or religion.
Although one could argue that since much of gun ownership is cultural (as in gun culture and hunting culture) that is passed down in families, anti-gun owner bigotry would be equivalent to other forms of hatred directed to cultural identities.
I think it is clear that the National Gun Violence Action Council is less a pro-gun control group and more of an anti-gun owner internet hate group, blood brothers in spirit to Stormfront.
Their alleged respect for human life and feelings? Huge load of bullshit.
Liberal Writer/Journo wrote this:
Somebody targeted a concert for teenage girls, 19 confirmed dead and 50 wounded at the time of this writing and Mr. Leavitt finds it hilarious.
ROPE, TREE, SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.
But what happened?
Police confirmed that a man entered the House of Refuge Family Worship Center near Hillcrest and E. 109th Street Sunday morning and fired shots, striking a church greeter in the head, who then fell through a window in the sanctuary. Police said person was rushed to a hospital and is expected to survive. Police said the gunman, described as a black male, entered the church through a back door and then opened fire during a service.
Source: Gunman opens fire during Sunday service
Damn! That is bad. If there was a law in the books prohibiting the carry of guns in church…
Missouri Revised Statutes
Chapter 571
Weapons Offenses
Section 571.107.1
Permit does not authorize concealed firearms, where–penalty for violation.
(14) Any church or other place of religious worship without the consent of the minister or person or persons representing the religious organization that exercises control over the place of religious worship.
Wait, you mean there was a law ? But how did that happen then? A criminal did not obey the law?
