Via The Gun Writer:
Kris’ note: This is from the Associated Press
NEW YORK — Three-quarters of nearly 53,000 guns used to commit crimes in New York were originally purchased in another state, New York’s attorney general said Tuesday.
The report released by Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is intended to pressure the federal government and state governments to enact stricter gun control laws.
Report: Most guns used in NY crimes bought elsewhere
Regular readers have seen me deal with similar headlines, mostly from Chicago. So you ladies and gents know what’s coming up next:
Pennsylvania is second and three times lower that NY State in “providing” guns to criminals. For the heck of it, I checked Florida’s gun tracing data and found something surprising:
It seems that the NY Iron pipeline is suffering a blowback and even with those great gun control laws in place, they are managing to export firearms to Florida. I did a quick check on neighboring states (Pennsylvania, Maryland, Massachusetts, Connecticut) and to states as far as Alaska, and Washington and guess what? NY guns ended up in those states. So, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman should get off his moral coin-operated supermarket pony, go after violent offenders and not worry about gun owners outside his state.
Quite interesting — thanks for sharing this!
IMO, then those out of State guns ending up in NY are 90% probability of having been ILLEGALLY obtained.
Stolen or straw purchase and maybe even sold illegally to a prohibited person.
It isn’t like a NY BG could buy a handgun legally in ANY State.
https://www.atf.gov/about/docs/report/new-york-firearms-trace-data-%E2%80%93-2014/download
Check out the time-to-crime. It averages almost FIFTEEN YEARS. Yep those guns were likely illegally obtained, but most likely they were illegally obtained LOCALLY, Long time-to-crime records suggest guns moving around with legal owners.
Many of my guns trace to states that aren’t my resident Massachusetts, but they are indeed legal.
I thought all NY “crime guns” cam from Vermont?
That was last week…
I’ve seen NY crime guns, this particular data set, and the “Vermont” crime guns myth elsewhere, though the author of this article does use this year’s newly released data to back up the existing fact.
http://fmshooter.com/shifting-the-blame/
So the stats show that criminals get around. Who knew?
Let’s not forget the elephant in the room, that Federal law ALREADY requires all interstate transfers to have background checks.
Ah yes, karma IS a bitch…
I wonder (because it might actually mean something) how many TOTAL guns were recovered? What criteria were used to pick those being traced. What percentage of total recoveries were traced? Among other questions…
How do they know where a firearm was originally sold? In states where firearms are not registered (such as Texas) how do the Feds know what firearms are bought/sold there? I was not aware that an ICBC included data on the weapon the person being checked was trying to buy. Is there a federal registry of gun sales? Does it include data on who purchased the firearm? If they have a central record of all firearm sales, how is that not tantamount to a national registry?
The firearms are tracked all the way to the retailer. The FFL retailer has the info on the purchaser but the ATF cannot access that info unless the gun has been involved in a crime. Only when the FFL goes out of business, the records go to the ATF.
National Registry? In a sense yes… but they are sort of overwhelmed by the amount of 4473s they have already and the files have still be searched “by hand” not a snazzy computer search.
http://www.vnews.com/ATF-gun-records-are-stuck-in-the-1970s-3905747
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/27/firearms-national-tracing-center-atf/74401060/