Yesterday, a couple of idiots decided to take me to task on what they considered my support for the outcome in the Daniel Shaver case. I was a bootlicker… no, wait, I could be perceived to be a bootlicker because of that and obviously I was not a good gun guy, etc, etc.
Let’s start with the obvious: If you use what you think are fancy word play to insult me and yet say you did not, the you are a perceived and confirmed mental midget for trying to pull sophomoric shit into an argument.
Now, much of the outrage comes from ignorance: They refuse to acknowledge that Daniel Shaver did participate in the chain of events that created his demise and is now portrayed much like a blameless victim, free from any responsibility. Of course, getting drunk and fucking around with what was seen as a real rifle by witnesses is what started the chain of events.
Next on the fuck up parade were the confusing instructions by the sergeant and a procedure that it sucked chocolate salty balls. I am going with this being 90% of the cause of Shaver’s death. Unfortunately it was not him who went to trial but the trigger-puller, officer Philip Brailsford.
Now, were Philip Brailsford’s actions against the law? According to what the jury saw, they were not. And truthfully, Shaver reaching around to the small of his back is a huge indicator that a weapon might be about to make its presence know,
So overall it is a shit case. No clear good guys or bad guys, just two sides of stupid and unprofessional…which neither is criminal. So, rather than run from cyber tree to cyber tree looking for a rope of ignominy to lynch Philip Brailsford, why don’t we figure what went wrong and what needs to change within Mesa PD so this shit has a reduced chance to happen again. It tends to be a wee be more productive and in the end it will avoid other stupid deaths.
By the way, these “outragers” never even gave a thought about the civil lawsuits totally over $100 million against Mesa PD brought by the wife and the parents of Mr. Shaver. Even if they get half, the county is gonna feel that one and probably somebody will have to pay for that colossal load of crap.
You have to accept that in Life, you get very few chances for perfect justice or what you think it should be. Learn to live with it and stop being a perceived asshole when shit does not go your Barbie and Ken Hawaiian Holiday way.
That is all.
PS: One of the outragers identified hisself as a retired police officer who quit the force after five years because he was sick of the cop shit against civilians. Strangely enough, Mr. Civil Rights Cop did not know the concept of felony Stop.
Good try, Butchy.
I think you summed it is well 90% the police and 10% the guy.
I’ve watched a lot of police and self defense shootings, I’m not some hardened keyboard warrior or anything but this one was tough for me to watch. I think what really drives it home for people and magnifies the outrage in this case is the grown man crying and pleading not to be shot with the cop basically saying I will end you non stop. Add in the hindsight and I think people loose perspective of what is happening in the moment.
Donut operator summed it up we’ll play by play in the original video you linked.
I honestly don’t know for sure if the cops should be liable at this point or not, but if all the facts are true, as distastful as it feels for me, I think they acted correctly.
I saw this one as a “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” event on both sides. That said, the video is hard to watch in hindsight. Also, even though it was deemed inadmissible as evidence, putting one of those snarky engraved dust covers on your AR (especially one that you may ever use in a shooting situation) is just asking to be roasted in the court of public opinion.
How are those idiots any different to those who think Treyvon Martin or Michael Brown were automatically innocent because black?
They’re absolutely no different than the supporters of Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown. They’re reacting purely emotionally, with no relevant subject matter knowledge or apparent upper-brain function at all. Truth is, this wasn’t really a close case at all, and had it not been for the dust-cover I don’t believe the prosecutor would ever have brought this to trial. So much for the “putting stupid stuff on my gun doesn’t have legal consequences! MUAH RAHWTS!” crowd.
Dumb Stuff: Keeping Andrew’s bike running for decades now.
Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? That ASSHOLE COP MURDERED THE GUY! He had no more CAUSE to shoot the guy than someone with an expired PARKING METER! The TRIGGER HAPPY COP should be in PRISON WITH NO PAROLE FOR LIFE!
I guess the part of wasting my time with outrage was not comprehended.