“What these three boys did was stupid,” said Leroy Schumacher.
Schumacher agrees his grandson and his friends made a bad decision, but not one worthy of deadly consequences.
“They knew they could be punished for it but they did not deserve to die,” said Schumacher.Redfearn, 19-year old Maxwell Cook and 16-year old Jake Woodruff were shot by the homeowner’s son while breaking into the Wagoner County house Monday.
Schumacher says his grandson didn’t have a chance. The 17-year old, he says, never got into trouble.
“Brass knuckles against an AR-15, come on, who was afraid for their life,” said Schumacher.
Family member of teen burglary suspect killed in Wagoner County break-in speaks out
To this day I find amazing that we have people believing that a criminal should be given a “sporting chance” when committing a crime of violence. His grandson and his friends did not give a fair warning to the family about what, when and how they were going to do and that is not “fair.” But we kinda know criminals do that stuff and that is why we have this beautiful legal concept of the Castle Doctrine which allows us to used deadly force against anybody breaking in to our homes.
And dear grandpa, brass knuckles are categorized as deadly weapons. You are just pissed they are a close quarters instrument and your grandchild got bested by a weapon designed to use from afar. Stupid carries serious consequences when in the commission of a forcible felony.
But wait, there is more!
“There’s got to be a limit to that law, I mean he shot all three of them; there was no need for that,” said Schumacher.
It is because your kids could not instill the basics of decency and morality to your grandson (which kinda makes me wonder if you did your job with your own kids) that the young punk ended up with extra holes in his body. Lack of a decent upraising does not get cured by strangling the rights of people to live peacefully in their homes and repel attackers but by taking responsibility and teach your descendants that bad behavior sometimes has deadly consequences.
So Mr. Schumacher, blame yourself for teaching that basic information nd don’t blame those who knew and did what they had to do to protect their home and family.
Hat Tip Ed S.
“Stupid carries serious consequences when in the commission of a forcible felony.”
This x 1k. Play stupid/deadly games, win stupid/deadly prices.
^^^ Agreed. Castle doctrine isn’t new in OK and they should have known that. They committed a home invasion and the occupant was perfectly within his rights to respond as he did. One might say an obligation to do so. Say what you will about how the boy was raised, but sometimes the lessons don’t take…
ChrisJ
The news media always interviews the perpetrators’ families in these cases and they always get the same sound bite…
Were these kids aspiring rappers who had turned their lives around, been admitted to college/trade school and gotten involved in the life/lives of their child/children?
Unfortunately the perpetrators families arent the ones who have to worry about a civil suit so they can speak their mind without rebuttal.
Considering the Grandfather’s ignorance of both the law and morality, It’s not hard to figure out where his sprog’s sprogs got their attitude that they can do anything they want without consequences.
No, Grandpa. Your grandson lost any right he had to keep breathing as soon as he stepped into someone else’s home with evil intent, as demonstrated by his own actions and equipment.
You don’t want your grandson to get shot? Great. Make sure he’s raised to not do things that can get him shot.
Only surprising thing about this is I lost the “guess the race” part before seeing the picture. That and I was thinking “didn’t I just see this last month?” and the month before that, and the week before that.
This seems to happen all the time, some oxygen thief fails to raise their spawn then whines when corrective action is taken due to their blatantly pre-planned maliciousness. They all sound the same too; “He was just trying to (beat, rape, stab, defenestrate, etc) them, he didn’t deserve to die for that”. Yes, yes he did, and so does anyone making that argument.
I remember when this went down, and the discussion about it on Weaponsman.
I stand by the comments I made then, which was to the effect of ‘They committed suicide in the Ankh-Morpork tradition’ and ‘Choices have consequences, and bad choices can have lethal consequences’.
I’m sorry they died; it’s a hell of a thing. But they made the choice to kick that door in instead of telling the fat slug of a getaway driver to get bent.
The big problem is people focus on the outcome, especially if someone loses a life, but refuse to look at and acknowledge the events that led up to that point.
Amen
Legally Armed Homeowner – 3… Teenage “Felons-in-Training” – 0.
How many lives did he save? How many rapes did he prevent?
Putting down these rabid slime prevented future tragedies. Does any one think these three scum would stop at one home invasion?
Grandpa needs to be run out of town for his stupid comments.