Update: Stolen firearm from unlocked vehicle. This is what I mean.
I had mentioned about it last year. I want to make guns stolen out of vehicles our safety priority this year.
First, I need to define the problem and thanks to the magic of YouTube and inexpensive surveillance systems, I have material to look through and I am doing so. If anybody can find police stats on car break ins, it would be of great help, I don’t care if it is one little town or a major city because I have the feeling they are pretty much the same thing.
What I have seen so far (small sample yet) has made me change my initial idea of this being just a question of gear alone and more of combination of gear and lack of brains. but I don’t want to jump to a firm conclusion yet.
Any other ideas are welcome. I will be asking the opinion of metal workers and automotive people because there will be a need to either find the proper devices or maybe you will get a chance to create the new strong box for guns in vehicles. We will need to offer a not-so-expensive device that could help frustrate a criminal into stealing your gun.
I’ll come back with this when I have more stats.
PS: Dear God! I may have to use Excel! The Horror!
The solution to this problem is to make less places “gun free zones”. Harder to take a weapon from your hip than your car. Mandating lock boxes in the car creates a host of legal, rights and safety issues. I have something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FATWGSU?tag=cf-gunsafes-20. It works well, but planning goes a lot further than mandating safety will. If they are carrying tools to take this, you’re going to lose anyway.
Who is mandating anything?
Sorry if I seem to have my hackles up. My initial read of the post looks to require a mechanical box to store your gun. If that was not your thrust, I apologize.
Personal responsibility does not equate with government mandate.
However, personal irresponsibility does attract legislators and their stupid laws.
I have had some limited success with a lock box that slides into a locking frame. I had a body shop install it in a hidden location. It works fairly well, wasn’t very expensive, however it is a problem to stow the pistol or retrieve it without calling attention to your movements. The best solution I have found is to stop short of the “gun free zone”, stow the pistol and then proceed to your destination (some good distance away) and park Then repeat the procedure when you exit. It takes some extra time but does solve some of the issues. Other than the time, if you are in a less than ideal area you expose yourself to some risk while making the exchange, obviously planning ahead and allowing extra time as well as keeping your situational awareness level higher than normal during the exchange is important. I employed the procedure for a visit to a V.A. facility that is located in a less than safe area. You, of course have to be extra careful to make the exchange far enough away that the Federal Security personnel are not able to observe since even safe storage is forbidden.
Require secure storage in gun free zones. Terrible idea overall buy has some application.
NH does that for court houses.
By “require” you mean that the place that is designated gun-free is required to provide the secure storage? That makes sense to me.
Gott in Himmel… don’t use Excel. Use LibreOffice Calc. It’s free, cross-platform, and (mostly) compatible with XLS.
Google docs… 😀
I have a Console Vault in my truck (www.consolevault.com) and it’s great for the times I’ve had to leave a handgun behind. It’s custom made for each vehicle, so I’m not sure of availability, but it fits like a glove in my ’18 Toyota Tundra. And of course, it works great for storing things like iPods as well.
Is this the type of info you are looking for?
https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Number-of-guns-being-stolen-from-vehicles-increasing-in-Springfield-500040661.html
Pretty much on the nose. I’ll add some other info.