“It’s just a question of what’s the presumption. Can I carry a concealed weapon any place I don’t see a picture of a gun with a big red circle and a line through it, or should I know with the law is should I assume I can carry a weapon into someone business if I’m not told its welcome by the proprietor?” Sen. Don Harmon, (D) Oak Park, asked.
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After hearing this, I would get up, ask for a point of order, call the Master-At-Arms and demand that this guy be given a breathalyzer test. It took me three times to half way understand what he was trying to say and I had the advantage of reading the whole article.
I volunteered to help a friend that was running for the State Legislature. It was Eye Opening. Early episodes of Parks and Recreation really do capture the stupidity of both politicians and the public. There is nothing a comedy writer could make up that is any worse the some of the stuff we saw. I knew I could never run for public office, because many of my answers would start with “No, dipshit, let me explain how this really works…”
“No, dipshit, let me explain how this really works…”
Maybe this is what we need in our Legislatures…
Seems to be working pretty well for Trump.
When IL was going through the CCW debates, they tried the whole “You have to get permission to carry in a store’ bit instead of signs forbidding it. It went down in flames. The stupidity shown by the legislators was frightening in the ignorant comments and questions the asked over and over again.
I was living in IL at the time, I remember those debates. The Dems came right out and said that they wanted to make CCW so restrictive that people wouldn’t want to get the permits, and if they did, they wouldn’t want to carry anyway. Why do you think a permit takes 16 hours of class time and between training, and fees costs almost $600 to get? It made it too expensive and time consuming for many people to obtain one. They wanted the business permission rule in place so a person who carried in Chicago could walk down the street (can’t use public transportation while armed) but couldn’t enter any stores. It would have made trying to spent a day out shopping so impossible to do while carrying, that people would just leave their guns at home. They had to pass the law, but they wanted it to be onerous to the point of denying the right by difficulty.
” Why do you think a permit takes 16 hours of class time and between training, and fees costs almost $600 to get?”
It didn’t cost that when it started up, and costs less now. The $150 is fixed, and yes, deliberately high to discourage the hoi poloi . 16 hours of “training” I expected to be about $300. I ended up paying $225, and that before they were even accepting applications. I’ve seen training costs do down to about $100 for the 16 hours, as the initial market thins out.
So, right now you’re looking at more like $300, exclusive of equipment.
It still costs way more than it should. But this is Il-i-noise, Land of Graft.