RICHMOND — Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) plans to announce Tuesday that Virginia will no longer recognize concealed carry handgun permits from 25 states that have reciprocity agreements with the commonwealth.
The states are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Agreements will remain with West Virginia, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas and Utah.
Source: Virginia to end concealed carry reciprocity with other states – The Washington Post
Unexpected but not surprising coming from an administration so wedded to Gun Control. My fear is that if we do not spread the word, coming Feb 1 there will be a lot of unaware people visiting or traveling through the Commonwealth can get a charge for a gun carry violation, a Class 1 misdemeanor that brings fines of up to $2,500, up to 12 months in jail, or both. After that it becomes a felony.
The option if you must travel through occupied territory is to get one of the permits from the approved states.
And Virginia does need to get rid of the assholes they have in the Executive come next election.
Yes, this asshat needed to go on the day he ignored his sworn oath to honor the laws of the Commonwealth (about a month into his term) when he prevented his office from defending Va. Law prohibiting gay marriage. I don’t agree with that law either, but Herring swore to uphold it.
We’re stuck with this troll, and our Governor, for a few more years. But I suspect our General Assembly will rein in both of them in a few months.
Why did he fail to uphold it? Was it on concerns of constitutionality? If so then he was within his rights.
The idea that the Supreme Court is the sole determinant of constitutionality is something that started to creep in while the founding fathers were still alive, and that they SPECIFICALLY addressed and pointed out that that was NOT their intention.
They intended each branch to exercise judgment independently over the constitutionality of law in a negating way. The judiciary could refuse to convict if they deemed the law unconstitutional, the executive could refuse to enforce if they deemed it unconstitutional, and the legislature can simply not pass/repeal laws that it deems unconstitutional.
The idea being that law, by nature, is restrictive (a thing is legal until a law says it’s not). This way all 3 branches would have to be in agreement about the constitutionality of a law/restriction in order for the people to actually be restricted by it, meaning a natural tendency toward personal liberty being maintained in cases where constitutionality is even in doubt.
That’s a far cry (and far better) from what we do now, which often is blindly enforce restrictions over the people until the court finally gets around to making its autocratic determination that maybe we shouldn’t…even when blatantly unconstitutional.
I left Virginia years ago and haven’t looked back since. I grew up there and as soon as I was financially able to leave, I did. Best decision I ever made. If you are fed-up with with legislators that are destroying decades of hard work – Move away! Leave all these gun hating legislators in their own cesspool. There are many other states that would value your God given right to defend yourself and your family as well as those neighboring states Herring just alienated. If you cant move away then don’t cry or whine about the changes. Get off you hind ends, flood the state house with calls, and form groups to petition his immediate removal. Next time there is a vote for this seat remember this and ensure it doesn’t happen again – EVER! Let this mistake be a lesson to all no matter your political views or affiliation.
It’s also possible to get a VA non-resident permit, I have one and don’t recall the process being arduous. Of course, the UT non-resident permit covers a lot of states (I have one of those, too, I’m a belt-and-suspenders guy).
–Andrew, @LawSelfDefense
Stupid Democrats. Anything they can do to infringe. Now I have to detour several hundred miles through Tennessee and Kentucky to go from my home in SC to see my Father in Ohio rather than the straight shot up I-77.
People’s lives are more important than your guns.
Happily, there is no conflict between most people’s lives and my guns. Only unless they make the decision to be a threat to my life is there conflict on that. In that case, legally their life actually is no longer more important anymore, as it can be forfeit in the process of saving my own. My gun is then handy for that situation. So it actually works out quite smoothly overall.
That’s a dumb comment…
That has nothing to do with it. Those who aim to kill will have a gun, permit or not. This only affects law abiding citizens who might save your or your loved ones life. If you think banning guns will save lives, look at Chicago and California. Oops the criminals don’t care about laws.
My life is more important than those who seek to do me harm. And if a gun is the best means to defend my life than yes my gun rights are more important than other people’s life.
People’s lives are more important than your guns.
And that is why there are people with guns on the taxpayer’s payroll, right?
We choose to bypass the middleman that legally has no duty to protect us. The life of my family and mine is so important, I choose to own and carry the most effective tool possible for its defense. Bad breath and sharp words only go so far.
My gun is important to protect MY life from those who would do me harm.
You must be a bleeding heart Liberal gun grabber.
It may one day be my gun that saves your life!!
Normally I’m all in favor of people who want to step in and be a hero, but in this case you should respect her wishes and let her get mugged/raped/beaten to death.
(first posting attempt showed up in the wrong place, let me try that again)
That presumes that every person who holds a lawfully issued concealed carry permit is a potential killer. National statistics demonstrate that those folks who have gone through the legal process to obtain a CCL are among the least likely percentage of the population to commit a crime of violence. Therefore, your, obviously biased comment has no validity whatsoever.
Or, just open carry. Virginia is an open carry state; Code of Virginia 18.2-308 uses the phrase “not hidden from common observation” so as long as the “average individual,” whomever that might be, can identify what’s on your hip as a firearm, you’re legal everywhere in the Commonwealth.
Yeah, I looked it up. I’ll just Open Carry through Virginia and drive those P***y Democrats crazy!
Why ???? Has there been a crime with legal concealed carriers from other states in this state. I really wish these politicians would go after the criminal as hard as they go after the legal gun owner. Take GA our permit is good in certain states Va not one of them but West Va is A person that travels would need a lawyer and 3 judges to explain at every state line just what is legal and what is not. Example travel cross country to Ca. with a sidearm for personal protection. What you do with it to enter CA?? Or lets say im going from Ga to West VA, Legal all the way until I get to VA , now what? how do I go through the state legal???? I certainly hope he has real answers to the questions like this.
Why? Because F*** You, that’s why.
NRA HQ is in VA and they get lots of out of state visitors I’d imagine.
Fucking shit…nice way to wake up, man we drew a shit straw when he won. I’m gonna buy myself more mags for my 1911 now just to piss him off. And the fact I need more mags. And this bonus I got for being a good lil worker all year.
I see no mention of Iowa. I could have sworn we were legal there.
It is absurd to think that banning ccw from other states will diminish the impact on those with intent to do harm. So I ask, what is the number of out state ccw holders that have come to Virginia and committed crimes with their firearm? There are no states that issue ccw to those that are felones, or not meeting the requirements to carry concealed.
It is in my mind unacceptable to make a decision of this magnitude simply for the sake of giving the appearance that our governnent is making a diffdifference. …….this is careless, and wreckless governing.
You sir should be ashamed that you gave grossly ignored the request of your constituents and acted in a manner not in the eoples best interest.
Hell, they dropped Delaware! Having completed the DE process, I can tell you it is very thorough and far more strict than VA’s. It’s also may issue, and Special Investigators in the AG’s office contact references of applicants, comb through their backgrounds etc. etc. This tells me their reasoning for why they dropped these states is flat out BS.
Why does any other state have to recognize a Virginia drivers license?
How many times have we heard that driving is not a right? Well, bearing arms is a right.
I am amazed at the flexibility demonstrated by my Attorney General. He had to reach way up his ass for that ruling. His imagination is almost as unbelievable. Oh, beloved Commonwealth, why did you let this happen? He only won by 165 votes. Curses upon those who would not get off your couch to prevent this.
If the dems had lost by 165 votes, they’d still be protesting the election.
Normally I’m all in favor of people who want to step in and be a hero, but in this case you should respect her wishes and let her get mugged/raped/beaten to death.
My guns save lives as surely as my being vaccinated does.
Andrew, will the Utah non-resident suffice…even if your home state is not recognized? Depends on cop and prosecutor?
This is pure fear mongering. The 5 states listed have reciprocity in almost 42 states.
This Virginia democrat is appeasing both parties.
If you don’t believe it, search concealed reciprocity in each of those states.
Just remember that Open Carry is legal in Virginia. No permit required. Also guns maybe “secured” in a glove box, or console WITHOUT a permit to conceal.
I bet that damn piece of shit carries a damn gun. Son of a bitch like don’t need to be tryin’ to run a damn state. What the hell are we supposed to do u bastard
I wish people would stop labeling only those who don’t like guns as liberals and democrats. I consider myself liberal and vote democrat. I have my CCW and concealed carry everywhere I’m able. There are those who are into guns and those who arent. I respect the opinion of those who dont. That’s your prerogative for whatever reason. But respect my opinion also and don’t infringe on my right to carry or the fact that I believe it’s better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
If you are a democrat and you voted for THIS democrat, then you are to blame for this $HIT!
I would say ‘Season’s Greetings’ but that would be about as phony as (your) Mark Herring’s intentions about the safety of Virginians on the reciprocal-carry agreement for guns for gun-owners from other states.
Attention Mark Herring —
YOU ARE INFRINGING ON MY 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS!
This is a ‘back door’ approach to gun control and we, the public, will not stand for it. By ending our reciprocity agreement with Florida, Louisiana, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Wyoming, you are putting my life in jeapardy if/and when I travel there!
I believe that you have no genuine intent to protect anyone in Virginia — you don’t understand human nature — or you are unable to think rationally. This is clearly just political-posturing.
You know the statistics as well as I do. Law-abiding citizens are more trust-worthy than anyone else when it comes to violence. We are here to prevent it.
We (gun-owners and subjects that have to endure the hassle of obtaining a concealed-carry permit) have real goals in mind and that is to protect our fellow citizens and ourselves. This is something that Democrats fail to do time after time. The reason for this is your failure to use common sense. You have none. Further — this is going to impact tourism in Virginia — most out-of-state folks simply will not come to Virginia because of this nonsense. How do I know?? I do not go to states that do not honor the Virginia Concealed Carry Permit.
With the increase of terrorism in America and the everyday risk of living in a society riddled with crime, you are stupid if you do not enact measures to protect yourself! You are preventing ordinary, law-abiding citizens from doing so!
I will join forces with the NRA-ILA, and any other gun rights organization to fight you on this measure.
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I wonder what Bank he took his Bloomberg check to.
Herring was bought by Bloomberg, so he is simply doing his master’s bidding. He will pay for this in the next election, and hopefully sooner at budget time. In the meantime, open carry is legal and there’s not a darn thing that he can do about it, and FL and UT have very nice reciprocity for their non-resident permits. We here in VA appreciate everyone’s support and ask that you not judge all of us because of this a**hat and his bosses, none of whom the smart people voted for.
Del Rob Bell, an experienced prosecutor and strong 2nd Amendment supporter, has already announced his run for AG in 2017. Let’s start by supporting him early. Out of state help is welcome, too.