Gun Free Zone

Where a Hispanic Catholic, and a Computer Geek write about Gun Rights, Self Defense and whatever else we can think about.

Month: October 2012

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CSGV: Those Gun Free Zones really work!

Oct 16, 2012 Miguel.GFZ 8 comments

Sometimes it is hard to post about the Cult to Stop Gun Rights Violence without wearing a visor to avoid facepalm injuries. This is a screen capture of a long Facebook post about Gun Free Zones which I’ll try to analyze a bit at the time.

It starts with:

Gun lobby propaganda to the contrary, “gun-free zones” remain – far and away – the safest places in America.

Sure, that is why mass murderers never go to a Gun Free Zone but places full of guns like Gun Ranges, Gun Stores, NRA conventions, etc.

 

Yeah, our Orwellian talking point would be…reality?

 

Be still my beating heart! Somebody who actually thinks is posting here? Conspiracy!

 

She doesn’t like Gun owners much, does she?

  • Coalition to Stop Gun Violence It deals largely with the issue of enforcement; whether you are going to give law enforcement the immediate ability to remove guns from a situation when they are detected or there is reason to believe they are on the premises. That kind of discretion is critical in defusing potentially dangerous situations.

Correct me if I am wrong, but LEOs already have that ability. Unless the CSGV Intern of the Day is vying for unreasonable Search and Seizure anywhere at any time without Probable Cause.

 

Ah crap Burt… you were doing good and you had to mess it up.

 

A what? And to quote from the Princess Bride: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” I see they are still on the “The Right of the People” is a collective right in the Second Amendment but an individual right on the rest” meme. No wonder they keep losing court cases.

 

Or would it be because you know that the chances of having a Constitutional Convention to eliminate one of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights has the same chance as happening as having a ski season in hell?

 

If it is any consolation, any rational human being would also confused about the subject. Magical Unicorn Safety Fields do not work well in the real world.

 

And which the criminals and madmen respect because they know violating them would be a crime….wait. Never mind.

 

  • Burt Pierce Yes, but without the right, people could pass laws against guns, or at least, to control guns. So long as that amendment stands, there is little hope.

    Nothing wrong with the gun-free One, but enforcement becomes increasingly difficult when everyone has guns. Most guns the TSA finds were just left in people’s carry-on by mistake.

OK, my brain is hurting now. Burt…buddy…[sigh]

 

  • Coalition to Stop Gun Violence We might have to agree to disagree. There has certainly been progress on gun laws at various points in history with the amendment intact. As for gun-free policies, it allows for greater clarity and decisiveness in enforcement, allowing officials to take immediate action rather than waiting until violence begins to act.

Well, doesn’t that sound suspiciously more like unreasonable Search and Seizure anywhere at any time without Probable Cause? Do I detect a new trend here?

 

Color me surprised Burt.

 

  • Judy Chittim Gun free zones need to increase across the country! CC’s stay home and everybody’s happy!

And she is off her medication again.

And if you read the whole thing, here is something to help you deal with it.

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SCOTUS-sized Facepalm (retired or retarded, not sure which)

Oct 15, 2012 Miguel.GFZ 8 comments

It makes me sick that a supposedly legal genius is so disconnected from reality that does not understand the deadly lag between an initial call to 911, specially since he was sitting at the bench when cases of No Duty To Protect were brought to the Supreme Court. He was present during Warren v. DC, DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services and Castle Rock v. Gonzales,  and to say that a cell phone to call the cops is better for self than a gun speaks volumes about his level of isolation from the reality of the country he was sworn to serve.

John Paul Stevens was substituted by Elena Kagan when he retired who already wants to revisit (and strike down) Heller v. DC. So, tell me again that it does not matter who we vote for in November. Yes, I don’t know who will Romney appoint in case of  SCOTUS vacancy, but we sure as hell know what kind of judge Obama will select.