Miguel posted this video:
This is what antifa do to people they encounter in the street. Watch them assault and hit a man walking away from the antifa riot in SE Portland. They bring bats precisely for this purpose. #PortlandRiots #antifa Video by @VenturaReport. pic.twitter.com/AfxmVHHk6K
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) August 16, 2020
His focus was on the fat guy with the bat hitting the person.
Andy Ngo posted another video from Portland:
#Antifa are harassing and following a group of random men they accuse of being fascists and white supremacists. They were just standing there. The mob says them being there is “violence.” #PortlandRiots https://t.co/lAXRUVYHLD
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) August 16, 2020
The common theme between these two videos is that in both cases the people targeted by Antifa were leaving the situation and were being followed and harassed and assaulted while they were leaving.
These people were retreating and Antifa kept persuing.
IANAL but to me, it seems that once you have started your retreat if your attackers continue to follow you and threaten you while you are retreating you have cleared every threshold to justify the use of lethal force.
“I was walking away. I was leaving the protest. The followed me and continued to hit me while chasing me.”
It’s not just chasing people. I’m going to post this video again:
After #antifa were dispersed by police following the attack on the East Precinct, they tried to blind a woman at her home with lasers and attacked her.
Antifa have gone into residential parts of the city after moving on from attacking federal courthouse. pic.twitter.com/mKcrgHixmC
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) August 6, 2020
Antifa slammed the door on this woman as she tried to enter her own home, keeping her from retreating into her own house.
I have to agree with Miguel here, this is at the point where good people are going to start shooting Antifa.
Not just are they driving people out of public places, but they are chasing them while they retreat, following them home, and cornering them so they cannot escape.
I’ll also agree with Miguel on this point too, I now have an old police surplus Mossberg 500 that lives in the toolbox of the pickup. I’ve reached the point where having a long gun outside the home has become part of my in-vehicle EDC gear.
I’ve been thinking about that … leaning more towards an AR pistol in either 5.56 or 9mm, though, for magazine capacity reasons.
I never quite thought people were nuts for wanting a truck gun or anything (maybe exceedingly cautious), but now I’m thinking they were ahead of the curve. Guess those ‘high’ capacity magazines are going to become necessary at this rate, though I really hope it doesn’t come to it. Even if perfectly legal, it’s not going to be a pretty scene.
It really is just a matter of time before someone teaches these people a hard lesson, with bullets. They were doing the laser thing in that second video, and according to the law in my state (Utah), if you’re in fear of grievous bodily injury (which blindness certainly is), you may legally respond with lethal force.
If I find myself surrounded by an angry shouting mob with lasers and baseball bats, especially in front of my damned house that they’re preventing me from entering and retreating into, that is most certainly a “fear for my life or grievous bodily injury” scenario.
I don’t know if the law gives you the same latitude in Oregon, but it strikes me that we all need to be looking up our local regulations in preparation.
Even if Oregon’s laws provide that latitude, you will still be up against malicious prosecution based on where the incident takes place. Consider for instance the Albuquerque situation. At most that guy should be facing a charge of carrying without a concealed carry permit. Now, we can argue that that requirement is unconstitutional (or, perhaps, simply agree that it is); but that’s not the point.
I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six–or blinded for life. Fortunately, I don’t plan on visiting a blue city any time soon, and there’s not a jury in Utah that would convict me.
Oh, I agree … I’d much rather be alive to present my case.
Unfortunately business takes me to Albuquerque every week or so, so this is something I wind up thinking about.
When Tubbo whacked the victim on the upper arm, he could have stunned the arm enough to temporarily paralyze it. (People who swing bats don’t understand how much force they’re exerting.) So if you carry, you should carry in a manner that allows you to reach your roscoe with either hand. Just a thought.
J.Kb: you’re only NOW considering a long gun in the vehicle?
Heck, I’ve done been having a 5.45 Kalishnikov and 6 x 30 round mags in my trunk! Along with 6 x 33 pistol mags.
NWS wants me “storm ready”, *I* want to be “Antifa ready”.
I’m updating to an AR pistol, and changing my load our to 6 x 30 AR mags, with an AR rifle in the rifle bag. In addition to a Glock 19 as on-person carry.
I may die, but I anticipate having many goons to carry my bier into Valhalla.
Don’t shoot anyone if you can at all avoid it.
But if you have to, try to shoot a white male(s).
Don’t shoot a woman, because despite everyone’s professed beliefs in feminism and equality, the victim will be a martyr.
Definitely don’t shoot a Black person, because you will be personally made into a racist, bigoted Klansman, even if your skin tone is darker than anyone you perforated. And the shooting will be just another excuse to riot, loot and burn cities nationwide.
Shoot the white guy, no one gives a rip. Just ask Cannon Hinnant.
Bunch of real tuff guys attacking a women, especially the asshole in the blue shirt, perfect case for a magazine fed 12 gauge. 10″ 300 for a truck gun
You get a higher caliber troll than I do. I must have rookie numbers …
This is why you carry concealed (even if you may not have the proper permit). Not even sure if Oregon is a “shall issue” state but if forced to deal with a situation, it’s better to be prepared to defend yourself than not…I’ll be traveling south in the fall and will have a weapon besided me the whole way…..And I will not stop for rioters to get out of my way. A 33,000 lb RV is hard to stop.